Thank you so much! 
! I haven't been around here for a while!)
~when ur sad, remember the deppy japan trip of 2015~ 
Hey, I know this isn't exactly what you asked but I believe he's saying "imba leet", which is kinda old gamer/internety slang. Imba basically means imbalanced, and leet means elite, so it's really just a way of saying "really good". And now I realise what kind of weird nerd I amkoalaselfie wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:11 pm I'm putting this under a spoiler because it's driving me crazy, but it's nowhere near on-topic (however, it is vaguely Dan and Phil-related!) Anybody into computers, can you pls help one clueless soul?!
~when ur sad, remember the deppy japan trip of 2015~ rizzo wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 pm As a friendly reminder: If it has to do with Dan and Phil, things Dan and Phil use, places Dan and Phil have gone, or that one particular freckle on Phil's face, it's on topic, guys!(And what a lovely freckle it is~)
I was having a bit of a scroll through Jameela Jamil's instagram last night and I got to thinking about Dan and Phil's radio show and how it is sadly no more. (There was never a better King of the Radio. RIP. etcetc) I then had a startling revelation. Remember that article that was posted a few months back about the BBC struggling to find new DJs? Here's the quote about Dan & Phil:
Tours. Tours. That's a plural.The show was popular, but the pair - otherwise known as Dan Howell and Phil Lester - left after four years.
Cooper says: "We've looked at YouTubers, people like Dan & Phil, but they get tempted by huge amounts of money and go off on world tours around America and Australia."
Here we all were thinking this Cooper dude was just bitter that Dan and Phil wanted to get paid more or perhaps even thinking this dude was lying and the BBC had let them go. But no! It was right in front of us all along!
Basically, what I'm saying is that it seems that Dan and Phil's decision to tour again was made fairly early on, that they shared that decision with the BBC, and either (a) they agreed to go their separate ways or (b) the BBC wasn't willing to agree to a short-term or post-tour show.
I thought this was interesting. I wonder now if there'd be any room for them to go back to the BBC after TIIT? Am I too hopeful? Probably. But I'll just let myself dream.
I would sell my left arm for them to go back to the radio. I wasn't even here, in the phandom, when they were on it but the clips I see are some of my faves. But yeah I think Dan and Phil are all about progression at the moment and wouldn't want to go backwards...but I will still remain hopeful that maybe after the tour ends they will take their spots back at the radio.bluewho wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:35 pmrizzo wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 pm As a friendly reminder: If it has to do with Dan and Phil, things Dan and Phil use, places Dan and Phil have gone, or that one particular freckle on Phil's face, it's on topic, guys!
I was having a bit of a scroll through Jameela Jamil's instagram last night and I got to thinking about Dan and Phil's radio show and how it is sadly no more. (There was never a better King of the Radio. RIP. etcetc) I then had a startling revelation. Remember that article that was posted a few months back about the BBC struggling to find new DJs? Here's the quote about Dan & Phil:
Tours. Tours. That's a plural.The show was popular, but the pair - otherwise known as Dan Howell and Phil Lester - left after four years.
Cooper says: "We've looked at YouTubers, people like Dan & Phil, but they get tempted by huge amounts of money and go off on world tours around America and Australia."
Here we all were thinking this Cooper dude was just bitter that Dan and Phil wanted to get paid more or perhaps even thinking this dude was lying and the BBC had let them go. But no! It was right in front of us all along!
Basically, what I'm saying is that it seems that Dan and Phil's decision to tour again was made fairly early on, that they shared that decision with the BBC, and either (a) they agreed to go their separate ways or (b) the BBC wasn't willing to agree to a short-term or post-tour show.
I thought this was interesting. I wonder now if there'd be any room for them to go back to the BBC after TIIT? Am I too hopeful? Probably. But I'll just let myself dream.
Interesting. I think the last tour was a good demonstration that dan and phil have a lot of popularity, so I think it's likely that the bbc would be keen to have them back, even if it was in a different capacity (tv, presenting etc). But I don't know if dan and phil would want to go back because they always seem to have the next plan in the pipeline and might be busy with something.
no i meant like who knows they mightve found someone else (if phan isnt real) and they want to have a life with the other person. this theory was a joke btwrelatablemood wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:54 amThey're not together for business lmao. They're best friends (and probably a lot more lbr) first and foremost so I doubt they'll just want to split like that or "want to be neighbours". I genuinely can't imagine either of them wanting to live apart after so long living together unless they break up or were never together anyway and want to move in with their partners.thesadassassin wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:35 am maybe they bought two different apartments because they are planning on starting their own lives in 2019 after the tour but still want to be neighbours
Was it when he was talking about Onison. Like in that he says that he doesn't like people using him and phil to get views from their dedicated fans but he also said something like why would you want to talk about Onison when there are nicer youtubers to talk about.KatjaZoe wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:59 pm In regards to deppy not saying anything about Logan Paul -- i swear there's an old liveshow (maybe 2015/16? not positive) where Dan talks about how sometimes it might be better not to comment on certain situations because it just draws more attention to it. Similar to what some people have said on here today about Logan Paul -- I thought it seemed pretty relevant to the convo. I've spent the last hour trying to find it and I've had no luck. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? It's driving me crazy now that I can't find it!
What I don't get is the stairs we've seen in several videos. They are interior stairs.blackdenim wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:41 am I promise this is the last thing I’m gonna say about 2 flats (this week at least) but to clarify, I don’t think they’re living apart - it’s not meant to be any kind of “anti-proof”. I just think they either couldn’t find a place they liked that was big enough to have all the storage and separate filming rooms they wanted, or they felt they needed some separation between work and home life as others have discussed, so they opted to rent two flats in the same building. Zoe and Alfie have a whole other house basically that they use as an office, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility for D&P to do something similar, especially if they can claim the rent and bills as a tax deduction.
I’m sorry if discussing the layout makes others feel uncomfortable that’s not my intention! I would never use the information to try and track them down, and I’m not out here trying to find out where they live either: I’m just fascinated by the layout (and want to be proved correct if I’m being totally honest!) And to be honest I don’t feel it’s any more intrusive than some of the stuff we talk about on here (about the more “intimate” details of their relationship, tour sleeping arrangements, etc) but I will definitely stop if it really bothers people or is against any rules?!
Hmm. I personally always thought he was referring to the different legs of the tour as separate ones because they all required different actions from the BBC. But it's definitely possible that during contract negotiations that summer their boss went "It's not like you'll pull any of that again right? haha right??" and then D&P awkwardly smiled and went "Haha yeah... we can't promise that." because they indeed already had the idea in their heads since they weren't able to do as many Europe dates as they had hoped for.rizzo wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 pm As a friendly reminder: If it has to do with Dan and Phil, things Dan and Phil use, places Dan and Phil have gone, or that one particular freckle on Phil's face, it's on topic, guys!
I was having a bit of a scroll through Jameela Jamil's instagram last night and I got to thinking about Dan and Phil's radio show and how it is sadly no more. (There was never a better King of the Radio. RIP. etcetc) I then had a startling revelation. Remember that article that was posted a few months back about the BBC struggling to find new DJs? Here's the quote about Dan & Phil:
Tours. Tours. That's a plural.The show was popular, but the pair - otherwise known as Dan Howell and Phil Lester - left after four years.
Cooper says: "We've looked at YouTubers, people like Dan & Phil, but they get tempted by huge amounts of money and go off on world tours around America and Australia."
Here we all were thinking this Cooper dude was just bitter that Dan and Phil wanted to get paid more or perhaps even thinking this dude was lying and the BBC had let them go. But no! It was right in front of us all along!
Basically, what I'm saying is that it seems that Dan and Phil's decision to tour again was made fairly early on, that they shared that decision with the BBC, and either (a) they agreed to go their separate ways or (b) the BBC wasn't willing to agree to a short-term or post-tour show.
I thought this was interesting. I wonder now if there'd be any room for them to go back to the BBC after TIIT? Am I too hopeful? Probably. But I'll just let myself dream.
I found this quote in the timestamps for his 'So the Trump thing happened..' liveshow from Jan last year. 56:20ish:KatjaZoe wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:59 pm In regards to deppy not saying anything about Logan Paul -- i swear there's an old liveshow (maybe 2015/16? not positive) where Dan talks about how sometimes it might be better not to comment on certain situations because it just draws more attention to it. Similar to what some people have said on here today about Logan Paul -- I thought it seemed pretty relevant to the convo. I've spent the last hour trying to find it and I've had no luck. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? It's driving me crazy now that I can't find it!
The thing is, about problems, there’s a lot of terrible things in the world, so I find it hard to spend time or dedicate emotions to trivial issues. Sometimes other people are like, ‘Dan, give me your juicy opinion on this internet drama someone’s involved in’ and I’m like, ‘Literally Trump. Do you think I fuckin-- have even been on Twitter and know what’s happening? No! I don’t care!
What?? Do they? Like a guest house on the same property or..?blackdenim wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:41 am Zoe and Alfie have a whole other house basically that they use as an office, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility for D&P to do something similar, especially if they can claim the rent and bills as a tax deduction.
No, that's not the one I was talking about. I've never seen that clip actually, but I think it's super interesting! Certainly makes sense why a lot of people in the phandon dislike some youtubers who mention dan and phil a lot in their videos (Marcus Butler, Shane Dawson, etc.) when Dan specifically said its something they don't like.hello9217 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:29 am
Was it when he was talking about Onison. Like in that he says that he doesn't like people using him and phil to get views from their dedicated fans but he also said something like why would you want to talk about Onison when there are nicer youtubers to talk about.
Here's the clip
Yeah, that's not the one I was thinking of -- but defintely also supports that they prefer to stay quiet on things whether its less important drama or something more serious. I'm pretty sure the one I'm talking about I saw from one of the ls recaps that dinofvyou1 used to post, where she like sped it up cause it was a kind of long waffe and then put a summary at the end? If that helps ring any bells for anyone. Hopefully I'm not remembering wrong haha.fancybum wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:54 am I found this quote in the timestamps for his 'So the Trump thing happened..' liveshow from Jan last year. 56:20ish:
The thing is, about problems, there’s a lot of terrible things in the world, so I find it hard to spend time or dedicate emotions to trivial issues. Sometimes other people are like, ‘Dan, give me your juicy opinion on this internet drama someone’s involved in’ and I’m like, ‘Literally Trump. Do you think I fuckin-- have even been on Twitter and know what’s happening? No! I don’t care!It's definitely not the specific quote you're looking for, and I think the Logan Paul thing goes slightly beyond just some 'internet drama', but it's something somewhat related. Kind of? I tried
not a big fan of flat discussions but i'm mildly interested so putting my thoughts under the tab thingsarmstr2 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:48 amWhat I don't get is the stairs we've seen in several videos. They are interior stairs.blackdenim wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:41 am I promise this is the last thing I’m gonna say about 2 flats (this week at least) but to clarify, I don’t think they’re living apart - it’s not meant to be any kind of “anti-proof”. I just think they either couldn’t find a place they liked that was big enough to have all the storage and separate filming rooms they wanted, or they felt they needed some separation between work and home life as others have discussed, so they opted to rent two flats in the same building. Zoe and Alfie have a whole other house basically that they use as an office, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility for D&P to do something similar, especially if they can claim the rent and bills as a tax deduction.
I’m sorry if discussing the layout makes others feel uncomfortable that’s not my intention! I would never use the information to try and track them down, and I’m not out here trying to find out where they live either: I’m just fascinated by the layout (and want to be proved correct if I’m being totally honest!) And to be honest I don’t feel it’s any more intrusive than some of the stuff we talk about on here (about the more “intimate” details of their relationship, tour sleeping arrangements, etc) but I will definitely stop if it really bothers people or is against any rules?!
Having an office space definitely isn't unusual, it was more the 'entire house' aspect I was wondering about lol. But a guest cottage thing they already have on site is slightly less extravagant than just a whole other house somewhere. I guess. Sigh, rich people.blackdenim wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:39 am @fancybum I believe Zoe and Alfie have essentially a cottage at the end of their garden - Like a 3-5 minute walk away from their “real” house - which they work out of. It has a proper bathroom and kitchen, and could easily house a small family.
I know Shane Dawson has also rented a residential flat which he uses as an office with his friend Garret. So it’s not an unusual thing. It’s natural to want some separation between work and home life when you work from home. Especially once you get a bit older and want to develop good work habits and a routine.
) and learning about other people's processes is always fascinating to me. 
Phil said in an early ls (one he did in the slounge I think, when people in the chat outright said that his room was small) that he gave up the bigger bedroom for the gaming channel. From some tight angles in some of their videos we’ve worked out the the gaming room has an ensuite bathroom (where Phil goes to fix his contacts).hello9217 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:21 am I've never really jumped in on flat discussion because I know there will be no satisfying answer in the end, i.e. deppy will never tell us. But I just want to say that the reason two flats make no sense to me is because if ones for work and ones for living then why do they film in both? Like if dan never did a liveshow in his bedroom then it may be more believable but he did. Also the other thing that gets me is if they did have another flat, which Phil films in, then why his room so small? Like there should be a master bedroom, that presumably would be the size of Dan's room, which he could film in and not the closet he's in now.
There's no doubt that Dan and Phil were very proud of their radio show positions, but even if by some miracle R1 would want to take a chance with YouTubers again (and from that one interview it really seems like they don't, likely because in the end it didn't bring down their overall age demographic) there's no way they would get the same control over the show again as they did first time around. Not for the kind of money D&P probably ask, not after Interflop Takeover and not after choosing something else over radio which probably marks them as unreliable in the eyes of the BBC. And that influence they had was exactly the reason why our two favorite control freaks were so proud of it imo. At first they got the request show which was theirs to do with what they wanted as long as they played requests (and that R1 got rid of the request show after D&P left it does tell me R1 didn't care for that slot much anymore so it worked out either way) and then they produced their own thing which wasn't quite as well received but was still theirs. It's no wonder they enjoyed their time there, but returning wouldn't be the same for anyone involved and possibly not as good.fancybum wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:20 am About the radio talk: I don't think they would consider it a step back or down if they were being paid well enough and had most of the creative control. YouTube income is getting dicier in terms of stability and unless they want to tour every year (that sounds both tiring and annoying), other creative outlets that pay are always a good idea. I think they took a lot of pride in having their own radio show and would be open to going back (or going elsewhere..?) if the option was available to them. Dan's comment in a liveshow, in response to somebody telling them to do a podcast, of 'why would I do a podcast when I have a radio show?' (something like that) is pretty telling that he held the position in high regard, which is kind of funny- holding a relic of traditional media in higher esteem than its burgeoning new media counterpart based on..? What? Old people's opinions? But whatever, it'll come down to where the money (and most control) is.
Opinion Time: I really don't care for the gaming livestreams and they're not remotely a replacement for the kind of fun candid moments the radio shows gave us. The gaming streams are basically the worst parts of gaming videos (tech issues/sucking and having to keep trying without the grace of editing) and liveshows ('say hi'/inane audience commentary that does nothing for anybody) combined. I don't think anything worthwhile enough is gained (on the audience side, I hope all those inane superchat$$ are worth it to D&P) to make the gaming streams a better substitute for anything we weren't already getting. Like if they were using the streams to play a long narrative game (Life is Strange? literally any game that isn't that watergirl thing or overcooked over and over again??), as in do something different that they didn't want to do in edited videos, that could have been interesting. But as it is: meh.
Re Radioshow discussion:rizzo wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 pm As a friendly reminder: If it has to do with Dan and Phil, things Dan and Phil use, places Dan and Phil have gone, or that one particular freckle on Phil's face, it's on topic, guys!
I was having a bit of a scroll through Jameela Jamil's instagram last night and I got to thinking about Dan and Phil's radio show and how it is sadly no more. (There was never a better King of the Radio. RIP. etcetc) I then had a startling revelation. Remember that article that was posted a few months back about the BBC struggling to find new DJs? Here's the quote about Dan & Phil:
Tours. Tours. That's a plural.The show was popular, but the pair - otherwise known as Dan Howell and Phil Lester - left after four years.
Cooper says: "We've looked at YouTubers, people like Dan & Phil, but they get tempted by huge amounts of money and go off on world tours around America and Australia."
Here we all were thinking this Cooper dude was just bitter that Dan and Phil wanted to get paid more or perhaps even thinking this dude was lying and the BBC had let them go. But no! It was right in front of us all along!
Basically, what I'm saying is that it seems that Dan and Phil's decision to tour again was made fairly early on, that they shared that decision with the BBC, and either (a) they agreed to go their separate ways or (b) the BBC wasn't willing to agree to a short-term or post-tour show.
I thought this was interesting. I wonder now if there'd be any room for them to go back to the BBC after TIIT? Am I too hopeful? Probably. But I'll just let myself dream.
The video stream was usually available worldwide but it didn't always work due to technical issues. In the very beginning (early 2013) the stream was also UK only I think because I remember having to use Hola in order to watch it.Elyanie wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:28 amRe Radioshow discussion:rizzo wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 pm As a friendly reminder: If it has to do with Dan and Phil, things Dan and Phil use, places Dan and Phil have gone, or that one particular freckle on Phil's face, it's on topic, guys!
I was having a bit of a scroll through Jameela Jamil's instagram last night and I got to thinking about Dan and Phil's radio show and how it is sadly no more. (There was never a better King of the Radio. RIP. etcetc) I then had a startling revelation. Remember that article that was posted a few months back about the BBC struggling to find new DJs? Here's the quote about Dan & Phil:
Tours. Tours. That's a plural.The show was popular, but the pair - otherwise known as Dan Howell and Phil Lester - left after four years.
Cooper says: "We've looked at YouTubers, people like Dan & Phil, but they get tempted by huge amounts of money and go off on world tours around America and Australia."
Here we all were thinking this Cooper dude was just bitter that Dan and Phil wanted to get paid more or perhaps even thinking this dude was lying and the BBC had let them go. But no! It was right in front of us all along!
Basically, what I'm saying is that it seems that Dan and Phil's decision to tour again was made fairly early on, that they shared that decision with the BBC, and either (a) they agreed to go their separate ways or (b) the BBC wasn't willing to agree to a short-term or post-tour show.
I thought this was interesting. I wonder now if there'd be any room for them to go back to the BBC after TIIT? Am I too hopeful? Probably. But I'll just let myself dream.
I don't think that the radioshow will come back honestly. It just doesn't feel like something they would do now I guess. As Much as I would love for it to come back sometimes
If I remember correctly though, wasn't the live video part only available to people in the uk? I joined the phandom late 2014 and I have vague memories of not being able to view the video part of the radioshow since I lived in the US. I was able to listen to the audio while it was live, but not the video I think? I heard whispers about changing your ip address while the bbc was airing it to watch it with everyone else but I never tried it out at the time. Does anyone else remember that or am I just going crazy??
I guess if the radioshow were to ever come back I'd want to watch it while it was airing? Or is that asking too much? I have no idea how the bbc works outside of the short time I had with the radioshow.
I joined the phandom late 2013 and i remember being so excited for radioshows. I used to switch browsers just so I could watch the stream and change my ip address. I did the same thing to access BBC iPlayer when they saved episodes online?? I don't think the stream ever worked without changing your browser location. Ahhhh I miss those days.Elyanie wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:28 am If I remember correctly though, wasn't the live video part only available to people in the uk? I joined the phandom late 2014 and I have vague memories of not being able to view the video part of the radioshow since I lived in the US. I was able to listen to the audio while it was live, but not the video I think? I heard whispers about changing your ip address while the bbc was airing it to watch it with everyone else but I never tried it out at the time. Does anyone else remember that or am I just going crazy??
I guess if the radioshow were to ever come back I'd want to watch it while it was airing? Or is that asking too much? I have no idea how the bbc works outside of the short time I had with the radioshow.
i always looked forward to the show, and i think the appeal, at least for me, was that it felt weirdly organic, if that makes any sense. also i loved having an actual set time to watch them do something fun live, that they clearly enjoyed doing. 
