I heard that when you translate the text, it just says "Equality".lurker wrote:i did some googling to find dan's shirt and found that it's from urban outfitters. it's sold out though, so i haven't been able to see if there was anything in the description about whether it was making a specific statement or just for the #aesthetic. this person on twitter posted about it last year.
I feel like it's worth mentioning that he's also brought this up with more detail in this liveshow at around 54 minsRigby wrote: I didn't like the fact that he rehashed that dentist/pain kink thing like it was something he had never said while using the same words and it kinda bugged me, but maybe I'm just in a bad mood because I'm hungry.
I don't know if I'm more excited or horrified when I think, even strictly theoretically, about the concept of cyrillic Dan and Phil merch... I can't for the life of me imagine wearing it in Russia, but maybe in other countries where they use the cyrillic alphabet. (Not to bring back the cultural appropriation discussion, but now more than ever I'm contemplating how Japanese or Japanese speaking people must feel about all the "pastel" merch...)sentinel wrote:Anyway, I need his shirt. It means equality in most slavic languages. Is he turning into slav-a-boo? May be we are in for some cyrillic merch.
malday wrote:One thing that makes me curious, is why he doesn't link the gaming channel at the end of his videos like Phil does. Does he assume all his viewers know about it, or does he think his casual viewers would not be interested in it.
Good one! We've got some true detectives here on IDB don't we?malday wrote:Guess I should go play the lottery, then?
) but it was entertaining and 'scrape me daddy' in a main channel vid is :vewynice:I hope it's both! Low effort/high effort doesn't really mean anything if everybody is using different definitions- like it's an "easy" idea in that Phil (and the rest of YT) have done it already, but he didn't just sit there and read out percentages, he put his own spin on it to make it timely etc what everyone else already said and I guess if it's not a 100% original idea it can just be called filler, but I mean... idk. I don't think his 'quality threshold' thing is so much about having an original idea and using it to make The Best And Most Original Thing Ever, but about doing something original/meaningful-in-some-way-to-him and dinof-y with an idea (whether it's "just a" tag vid or not) and imo he did that here. I know he's set himself up for harsher criticism and higher expectations (making my earlier question rhetorical because I know where the need comes from, in theory), but I think even with that, the audience multiplies it unnecessarily. If that even made sense, look I'm tired. With that said, if he tries to downplay it himself in some way in his liveshow (if he does one) I'll sigh. What a threat.anime_is_not_cool wrote:That was a nice video! Nothing groundbreaking, but I thought the editing was good and jokes were funny, and most importantly, Dan seemed happy and relaxed imo.
If you compare this to his last video that didn't require a lot of planning and a creative process and that Phil had done before (aka the quiz one), his attitude to making a "low quality" video was completely different. I wonder if it's because he was able to tie it to a relevant subject and used that to justify the low effort video (to himself), or if he's just in so much less stress now and able to think simpler. Or both!
Guess I'll know better when we hear how he talks about it in ls.
Yeah Dan's comment about fans ruining every comment section about something he mentions kind of crossed my mind, so maybe they're a bit wary of dragging 'outsiders' too far in to this hellhole we all inhabit (..said with love..?). But maybe that's a stretch, because money's money even if it comes with a hefty dose of cringe and it really just comes down to not wanting to appear to favour/promo anybody too much (or even make themselves look too #sponny in their own self-interest)? So many factors, who knows!lurker wrote:with respect to that there's also the question as to who actually wishes for which extent of promotion -- would everyone they collab with want them to spon the heck out of it, or would some youtubers actually not be keen on getting a singular peak in their viewer statistics on a single video with no long-term effect at all? is the extent of promotion something they discuss beforehand when they do a collab?fancybum wrote: But in the same way they don't really promote other people's videos (unless they're also front and centre in them and Jack Howard didn't direct it lol)[...]
tl;dr dark dan and phil, show me your forbidden social skills
ps fancybum i miss your old avatar but the new one is great too. also i am immensely pleased that your user rank takes up exactly as much space as your user name.
I'm kind of curious about doing that kind of test myself even though I'm pretty sure I'm as white as Dan, so it would probably not be very interesting actually.
I hope they'd at least be friends, though.
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Not sure if it's worth so much money though if you already know where your ancestors came from, maybe only if you're really interested in seeing what else it tells you about your predisposition (or lack of) for things.Ooh thanks. Her Dan mentions:gohomohowell wrote:Has anyone seen Savannah Brown's Tumblr? She told some people on there that she wouldn't do a collab video with Dan because of how intense and possessive she finds his fans to be.
The DNA testing is pretty accurate apparently, though not quite at, say, 100% accuracy yet.gohomohowell wrote:Thank you nephilimcat
Also, I think the DNA testing thing must be pretty accurate by now, thinking of how many samples they must've had to work with and come to improve on (say a person says they'd gotten no possibility of having red hair, but have red hair, they could send that information back so the people behind the test can work on it... I think?). Plus, if there was any danger than I'm sure some YouTuber would have exposed it for views already
I'll take any positive take on Eastern European culture ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Although I think Дан и Фил (that's in Bulgarian/Macedonian/Serbian, not quite sure about Russian) looks very harsh lol. I find Japanese writing very pretty looking, all words are like a painting, where as Cyrillic doesn't quite inspire the same feelings in me haha.coffeepenguin wrote: I don't know if I'm more excited or horrified when I think, even strictly theoretically, about the concept of cyrillic Dan and Phil merch... I can't for the life of me imagine wearing it in Russia, but maybe in other countries where they use the cyrillic alphabet. (Not to bring back the cultural appropriation discussion, but now more than ever I'm contemplating how Japanese or Japanese speaking people must feel about all the "pastel" merch...)
if you think that's harsh, you're most certainly not ready for the Russian version that should be Дэн и Филsentinel wrote:I'll take any positive take on Eastern European culture ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Although I think Дан и Фил (that's in Bulgarian/Macedonian/Serbian, not quite sure about Russian) looks very harsh lol. I find Japanese writing very pretty looking, all words are like a painting, where as Cyrillic doesn't quite inspire the same feelings in me haha.coffeepenguin wrote: I don't know if I'm more excited or horrified when I think, even strictly theoretically, about the concept of cyrillic Dan and Phil merch... I can't for the life of me imagine wearing it in Russia, but maybe in other countries where they use the cyrillic alphabet. (Not to bring back the cultural appropriation discussion, but now more than ever I'm contemplating how Japanese or Japanese speaking people must feel about all the "pastel" merch...)
I think I prefer the other one.[/offtopic]Emphatically not straight. can I throw that one in for the next thread titlecoffeepenguin wrote:Re: survey results, it's interesting how the end of the table stayed the same, but we just have a surge in gay/bi/queer people with the latter also added as a separate category. I really hope you guys who talked about doing more in depth analysis when all the results are released will do so, I know almost nothing about statistics even though I did a course on it, but I'm hyped already. It's also one of the results I'd really like Deppy to see, this isn't something that your youtube channel standard viewers' demographic stats will show you. I know those are results only for their core base, not the entire audience, but I wonder if they are aware of how emphatically not straight it is.
(also: this is basically how i usually describe my own sexuality )fancybum wrote:Ooh thanks. Her Dan mentions:gohomohowell wrote:Has anyone seen Savannah Brown's Tumblr? She told some people on there that she wouldn't do a collab video with Dan because of how intense and possessive she finds his fans to be.Ok let me rephrase my earlier thing about D&P being wary about dragging other people into their mess to include those other people being just as wary on their side. Apparently cringe outweighs money, got it. (But I mean.. if he legitimately asked her to collab, she's really going to say no..? it's easy to say something like that when there already exists no chance of it happening anyway just saying. shit am I being a scary fan right now? oh no)
As someone who has been in many fandoms over the years, I actually have to give phandom some props; yeah, it's shitty that people like Cat and Bryony and Hazel ever get hateful tweets and I'm not excusing or condoning what they do have to deal with... the ideal would obviously be none. But comparatively to other fandoms with m/m ships, it's almost non-existent. In fact, on the occasion when a woman they're seen in the vicinity of does get negative attention it's immediately and vastly overshadowed by the number of people apologizing 'on behalf of' the phandom. The sentiment towards Shawna was even overwhelmingly positive until all the icky religious and political stuff about her started coming out.dansbonsaitree wrote:I think it's a little unfair to say it's all about phans being cringe. The phandom has been pretty shitty (and threatening) to any woman they perceive as close to Deppy.
I find Cyrillic very pretty! :mrgreen:sentinel wrote:I'll take any positive take on Eastern European culture ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Although I think Дан и Фил (that's in Bulgarian/Macedonian/Serbian, not quite sure about Russian) looks very harsh lol. I find Japanese writing very pretty looking, all words are like a painting, where as Cyrillic doesn't quite inspire the same feelings in me haha.coffeepenguin wrote: I don't know if I'm more excited or horrified when I think, even strictly theoretically, about the concept of cyrillic Dan and Phil merch... I can't for the life of me imagine wearing it in Russia, but maybe in other countries where they use the cyrillic alphabet. (Not to bring back the cultural appropriation discussion, but now more than ever I'm contemplating how Japanese or Japanese speaking people must feel about all the "pastel" merch...)
going through a bit of a slavaboo phase as well, having visited a lot of Eastern Europe this year. Also I generally find languages with different writing systems so fascinating - I want to break the code, learn the origins, etc *inner linguaphile reveals itself*
coffeepenguin wrote:[offtopic]if you think that's harsh, you're most certainly not ready for the Russian version that should be Дэн и Фил
I definitely don't want merch in cyrillic, for the same reasons I hate the Japanese merch: it has nothing to do with them.sentinel wrote:I'll take any positive take on Eastern European culture ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Although I think Дан и Фил (that's in Bulgarian/Macedonian/Serbian, not quite sure about Russian) looks very harsh lol. I find Japanese writing very pretty looking, all words are like a painting, where as Cyrillic doesn't quite inspire the same feelings in me haha.coffeepenguin wrote: I don't know if I'm more excited or horrified when I think, even strictly theoretically, about the concept of cyrillic Dan and Phil merch... I can't for the life of me imagine wearing it in Russia, but maybe in other countries where they use the cyrillic alphabet. (Not to bring back the cultural appropriation discussion, but now more than ever I'm contemplating how Japanese or Japanese speaking people must feel about all the "pastel" merch...)
)I legit love all of your thoughts regarding this tbh, because I think about the situation a lot. I really love that they choose to keep that aspect of their money-making quiet. It's so smart: Come off as the anti-social youtubers who just focus on their own shit, while quietly running half of the UK-youtuber merch ologopoly.fancybum wrote:Ooh thanks. Her Dan mentions:gohomohowell wrote:Has anyone seen Savannah Brown's Tumblr? She told some people on there that she wouldn't do a collab video with Dan because of how intense and possessive she finds his fans to be.Ok let me rephrase my earlier thing about D&P being wary about dragging other people into their mess to include those other people being just as wary on their side. Apparently cringe outweighs money, got it. (But I mean.. if he legitimately asked her to collab, she's really going to say no..? it's easy to say something like that when there already exists no chance of it happening anyway just saying. shit am I being a scary fan right now? oh no)
[offtopic]May be I'm too used to Cyrillic I've stopped seeing the beauty in itpapierklemmen wrote:coffeepenguin wrote:[offtopic]if you think that's harsh, you're most certainly not ready for the Russian version that should be Дэн и Фил
. The reverse Э (оборотноя? 4th grade Russian is failing me) makes it look wild.
