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I think his 'random' humour came across really well a few years ago because at that time everyone was forcing the that sort of humour, which isn't as funny in the same way Dan's sarcastic internety humour gets eyerolls now. This made Phil seem a bit more naturally funny. Now, though, I'm not sure it works, and since people have pretty much abandon that sort of humour, he actually seems quite forced nowadays.jaej wrote:sorry but the only phil thing i really don't get is the insistence that his brain is so different and that people just don't understand him properly. there's a difference between not enjoying and not understanding, and i think a lot of people just don't enjoy phil's sense of humour or way of acting, it's not that he's some creative mind that we can't understand he's really not that bizarre or out there, i really don't understand that view. he can be odd, sure, but it really is exaggerated. he says the same kind of things that most people i know say, i've never thought of it as notable this is a 100% thing i want genuine opinions on because im really confused and can't tell if it's because i'm autistic and don't really see what is considered neurotypical or not

Completely forgot about those!! For a while I wasn't convinced they were real and thought they might be photoshopped. When did he post those? Was it before he and Phil started messaging each other?elias wrote:also the b&w bandage bondage naked boothskarma_yeah wrote:spider wrote:Never forget.
Thank you!! I'm crap at archiving and being able to find stuff like this (and not technically proficient enough to post it probably!). This tweet, the video Dan did where he tied Phil up and was playing with a knife and the time's they've blindfolded one another in videos has always made me think they are not vanilla. (definitely not saying they are full blown BDSM either, I think there's a broad spectrum, but my guess is they like to keep things interesting)

Dan Howell wrote:'[someone] just sent me a message saying 'Phil'..... same'
Cosign.trashqueen wrote: i'm gonna get ahead of myself and reply to comments that haven't been made yet but i'm pretty sure they're coming, @ anyone who thinks dan's milking it by now with the amount of comments/queerbaiting, i don't think so, i think he just made the decision to stop giving a fuck and get the message across and is now sticking to that plan, i would guess he might be close to reaching the final level because how much more explicit than this can you get?, but i don't even care if he is trying to profit from it tbh, i enjoy seeing people being unapologetic about their sexuality (if he was actually straight that would be a complete different thing but lbr he's not, if anyone thinks he's straight i'm inviting you to explain your train of thought bc i don't think how that's possible), keep them coming dan pls
Some people are in the phandom to see phan come out.alittledizzy wrote:I guess the real test will be to see what their post-tour content looks like
He is unique not exactly eccentric so I agree with the exaggeration part. When I think of Phil and his content I think that its different from the average youtuber. It has a different theme, concept, feel (atleast to me). Phil as alittledizzy stated, is a bit weird but that is not why his fans adore him. I mean his randomness makes me crack up and his one-liners in the gaming videos are gold (if you listen hard enough) but he is more than that. Also creativity is essentially thinking out of the box which is something he is gifted with as we saw in the Impossible Quiz game. He does have a unique way of thinking. Maybe that's why people grant him that personality trait.jaej wrote:sorry but the only phil thing i really don't get is the insistence that his brain is so different and that people just don't understand him properly. there's a difference between not enjoying and not understanding, and i think a lot of people just don't enjoy phil's sense of humour or way of acting, it's not that he's some creative mind that we can't understand he's really not that bizarre or out there, i really don't understand that view. he can be odd, sure, but it really is exaggerated. he says the same kind of things that most people i know say, i've never thought of it as notable this is a 100% thing i want genuine opinions on because im really confused and can't tell if it's because i'm autistic and don't really see what is considered neurotypical or not

I sure hope someone doesn't post them in here. I've gone months avoiding that photoset and thank god I haven't come across it recently. It would be such a shame if such a successful run ended.karma_yeah wrote:Completely forgot about those!!elias wrote: also the b&w bandage bondage naked booths

I'm not sure how much of this is directed at my Phil/Stéphane post, but I gotta make clear that my intentions for that post were not to accentuate a perception on how weird Phil is. My main goal was to attempt figuring out why Phil related to this main character from a surrealist movie. Stéphane, as much of his character that I can gather from a Wikipedia article, is a character caught up in his imagination and drive for creativity and had no one that accepted or related to him on any level due to this. Essentially, what does Phil think of himself that makes him capable of seeing himself in this character? That's all, nothing about my own interpretations of Phil's personality.manged wrote:I gotta agree with you on this. Sure, I'm just as interested in reading interpretations of his behavior as I am in reading Dan's. There are less things we can confidently conclude about Phil in comparison to Dan, so I guess that makes him more ~mysterious, more ~distant, and therefore, more ~strange. But boyyyy do my eyes roll when people start labeling him as some sort of enigma. I think some people glorify his eccentricity just to make the attempts at psychoanalysis more interesting. No direct shade intended though, I've only skimmed the recent Phil posts so I don't know what has been said in this discussion; I can only speak in general terms. I'm not autistic but I'm far from neurotypical, so take this however you'd like.jaej wrote:sorry but the only phil thing i really don't get is the insistence that his brain is so different and that people just don't understand him properly. there's a difference between not enjoying and not understanding, and i think a lot of people just don't enjoy phil's sense of humour or way of acting, it's not that he's some creative mind that we can't understand he's really not that bizarre or out there, i really don't understand that view. he can be odd, sure, but it really is exaggerated. he says the same kind of things that most people i know say, i've never thought of it as notable this is a 100% thing i want genuine opinions on because im really confused and can't tell if it's because i'm autistic and don't really see what is considered neurotypical or not
I love love LOVE the fact that Phil can go from Point A to K, as I think I do that myself, and often feel weird and awkward about it. It's honestly one of my favorite things about him.alittledizzy wrote:I do genuinely think that he makes mental connections from Point A to Point K when other people would jump to Point B. It doesn't mean he's wacky in a cartoon character/sitcom way, just that sometimes he can bring a perspective to something that is left of center from what most people would consider normal. I would guess that people in Phil's normal day to day life are more exposed to this than people watching AmazingPhil, save maybe the occasional moments in liveshows where he's as unguarded as he'll ever be on camera.

Thank you, I love you. I was dying for someone to talk about the likes, because I've been thinking about them all day lol. I'll write more later; I'm going to get dinner now haha.daphenaxa wrote:I am reposting with working links!!! disregard my previous post, and i hope it's gonna get deleted![]()
about Dan's tumblr likes:
OK so I will react to the ones that surprised me the most!!
First I am really surprised at how many woman edits of himself he liked. I don't know if it's because he likes it, finds himself pretty, finds it funny or what but that is extremely intriguing to me. He does make a really pretty girl to be honest, as one of his BBCradio1 colleagues actually said on air once LOL.
I was also not really surprised but still a bit at how many really sexual edits of himself he liked.
- this one: http://honkforgay.tumblr.com/post/60682 ... on-to-life for ex. I think he finds it hilarious. Like the time he showed (quite proudly i must say) that blog that was entirely dedicated to photoshop penises to his lips to Ben, Jack, Tomska and Louise. I think it's cool he finds it funny but it is also kinda telling I guess. I don't know if a laddy lad would find that as hilarious. Especially when they have denied being gay a lot and so aggressively.
- Then that #danesh edit what can I say? http://hemminiall.tumblr.com/post/40457134148/im-peeing it's actually the best thing I have ever seen. Honestly it's CRAZY that he liked that. I get it, it's funny but it's also a porn image representing himself having sex with that guy from a tinder app!!!
- Then the chrome one is good too: http://xheixue.tumblr.com/post/37740596 ... ernet-homo
and it's worth noting that every time he seems to be in the more "submissive" position like bottoming or sucking off. Not sure what it means, but once again it proves he is not that uncomfortable with the idea, which I am not sure a straight man would be? (not the general idea that people bottom, but the idea of bottoming yourself I mean)
- This "i like cock" one is just... idk what to say but it made me chock on water ahah
http://gae1an.tumblr.com/post/435134492 ... o-you-guys once again, hilarious but really dan?
Now the Phil related likes are also quite interesting because there are the obvious funny ones of Phil doing faces but then there is also "dark Phil" that I think Dan enjoys quite a lot like these two:
- http://elderberryseasponge.tumblr.com/p ... shark-meme "don’t look at me like that phil-san"
- "soon" http://bendia.tumblr.com/post/30036108536/soon
(btw I am now CONVINCED he has a thing for neck bitting/ripping/vampire shit, kinky danny)
but there are also family edits (which is cute) and more random ones like joking about anal sex and lube (and being a bottom again) http://nerdy-is-super-cool.tumblr.com/p ... g-cackling or Dan being jealous http://pikkulauantai.tumblr.com/post/52142743604 which are all evidently very platonic things.
some other more random likes that really made me laugh include
- this really over the top phan smut http://elliegalaxies.tumblr.com/post/23 ... an-it-felt
- Dan's orgasm face http://imaginexmenaked.tumblr.com/post/51998866090
- Dan lusting after the Biebs http://dannydevitoh.tumblr.com/post/352 ... and-justin
- and the BEST of all, that larry one http://quickballs.tumblr.com/post/23588 ... what-louis Like I know the directioners have a really bad rep and all but just like the phandom they can also be hilarious. Also I think Dan shipped larry a little tbh.
For the viewers' shade, he is actually going quite soft. His best likes are placenta related. These two are glorious:http://fearlesslyjamie.tumblr.com/post/ ... e-the-most
http://michelle-onfire.tumblr.com/post/ ... f-his-cult. I think for Dan it is a weird mix of annoyance but also reverence for kind of like his power and influence in a way? I remember in an old liveshow or vyou he was explaining how certain phrases became "a thing" like Delia Smith or placentas or llamas. That was interesting. It's like for the protip. As a troll at heart, he probably appreciate the spamming on a weird level.
Finally this one kinda killed me http://eachbreathandeverymoment.tumblr. ... /353397056
What specific ones did you want to discuss oqua? (and thanks again for collecting all those)
oqua wrote:ALL OF DAN'S INTERESTING TUMBLR LIKES
UM I DO!!manged wrote:On the topic of Phil, when will I ever find someone who also appreciates Phil's subtly ~sassy~(I fucking hate that word) gestures and mannerisms? Evil Mastermind Phil, Creative Genius Phil, Touchy-Feely Flirtatious Phil can all go suck fat ones imo. You know interests me? His little eye-rolls. The zesty flicks of his wrist. The way he'll kind of cock his head to the side real delicate. Now that's my ish.
I sure hope someone doesn't post them in here. I've gone months avoiding that photoset and thank god I haven't come across it recently. It would be such a shame if such a successful run ended.karma_yeah wrote:Completely forgot about those!!elias wrote: also the b&w bandage bondage naked booths
I genuinely can't even look at those photos, they're beyond cringey.

Agree with everything said above. Don't want to get ahead of myself, but I feel lucky to have joined the phandom at the time I did.sunday wrote:Cosign.trashqueen wrote: i'm gonna get ahead of myself and reply to comments that haven't been made yet but i'm pretty sure they're coming, @ anyone who thinks dan's milking it by now with the amount of comments/queerbaiting, i don't think so, i think he just made the decision to stop giving a fuck and get the message across and is now sticking to that plan, i would guess he might be close to reaching the final level because how much more explicit than this can you get?, but i don't even care if he is trying to profit from it tbh, i enjoy seeing people being unapologetic about their sexuality (if he was actually straight that would be a complete different thing but lbr he's not, if anyone thinks he's straight i'm inviting you to explain your train of thought bc i don't think how that's possible), keep them coming dan pls
I have nothing of value to add except that Dan's tweet made my whole day
This is actually the funniest parts of them getting any sort of actual recognition. They come from the internet but get a bunch of attention from non-internetees (??). While I don't think someone like Gerard Way or the person responsible for recruiting them for the crunchyroll AD would bat an eye at this sort of stuff, I do wonder how much they actually follow Dan (do they watch his videos too?) and why they follow him in the first place. That being said, I'm more interested in how much of his family watches his videos or reads his twitter. I'm trying to imagine if I'd make a joke like that somewhere where my grandma might see it, and not actually die from embarrassment.bedhead91 wrote:This is all true, but at the same time its still a hilarious thing to tweet to over 2 million people, some who might not be tuned into the vocab.daphenaxa wrote:the thing is that the tweet is like incredibly sexual but it is also normal standard fandom behaviour. We know Dan is fandom trash so he is down with the vocab. Honestly "dad choke me with your legs" is incredibly sexual but it is also what everyone on twitter writes when they have a feels overwhelm or to be funny. Dan himself gets that constantly. I remember that girl that sent "dan choke me with you legs" on younow and phil was like 'brandyyyyyyyy"
Dan has a bunch of random celebrities following him, like Gerard Way and Stephen Fry. It's also amusing to remember that the good people at ChannelFlip check up on the social media accounts of the people they manage on a regular basis. Almost as funny as the mental image of some random suit at CrunchyRoll watching Dan hug a Haru pillow topless.

The date on the screenshot of the bandage/bondage photos is October 11 2009. That's months after they started messaging each other and only about a week before they met in person. Not going to post them since it seems like they're too embarrassing for everyone here including me.karma_yeah wrote:Completely forgot about those!! For a while I wasn't convinced they were real and thought they might be photoshopped. When did he post those? Was it before he and Phil started messaging each other?

Best description of Phil ever. Also, someone can be nice and still determined to get their own way. Or nice, and also manipulative.kuensukki wrote:
UM I DO!!I'm pretty sure I always mention appreciating badass phil in his subtle teasing. He is a boss at keeping things below the surface so everything goes over your head the first time. He really knows how to wait and say something spontaneous, sometimes to get a rise out of Dan but other times because he's just a little troll. I'll be the first to say I hate the cinammon image of Phil in the phandom almost as much as I hate the depressed, suicidal existential image of Dan. He is no where near innocent and should not be babied. I think for Phil his polite caring nature gets interpreted the wrong way. Someone can be polite and kind but still be a little shit (Phil's case- I say that with the utmost fond).
None of it is, because I didn't I read your post lol. I might have to scroll back up and give it a glance, because I would definitely think that has more validity than, for example, saying his skull is so large because it holds an entire universe worth of creativity.crash[] wrote: I'm not sure how much of this is directed at my Phil/Stéphane post, but I gotta make clear that my intentions for that post were not to accentuate a perception on how weird Phil is. My main goal was to attempt figuring out why Phil related to this main character from a surrealist movie. Stéphane, as much of his character that I can gather from a Wikipedia article, is a character caught up in his imagination and drive for creativity and had no one that accepted or related to him on any level due to this. Essentially, what does Phil think of himself that makes him capable of seeing himself in this character? That's all, nothing about my own interpretations of Phil's personality.
Other than that, it does kind of suck that the common view of Phil is strangely romanticized the way it is. Not that aspects of Dan aren't, but for Phil, it seems especially so.
Anyway, I'm really flattered that some people were interested by what I said. Especially karma_yeah's post, gave me a fuzzy feel.
You ain't lying. I love that about him as well. However, I'm thinking more along the lines of how we have #campydan flailing his arms about, prissy-facing the shit out of his (cracked) lips, and what can be considered more effeminate inflections in his speech. Phil has those over-the-top moments too, but then he'll do it more subtly and I kind of get my life from it. I've labeled it #zestyphil because I can't think of a better descriptor atm.kuensukki wrote:UM I DO!!I'm pretty sure I always mention appreciating badass phil in his subtle teasing. He is a boss at keeping things below the surface so everything goes over your head the first time. He really knows how to wait and say something spontaneous, sometimes to get a rise out of Dan but other times because he's just a little troll. I'll be the first to say I hate the cinammon image of Phil in the phandom almost as much as I hate the depressed, suicidal existential image of Dan. He is no where near innocent and should not be babied. I think for Phil his polite caring nature gets interpreted the wrong way. Someone can be polite and kind but still be a little shit (Phil's case- I say that with the utmost fond).

#campydan is very obvious because he does it so egregiously but #campyphil is hand flicks and subtle eye rolls. His face clearly shows when he's done with something sneaky. Like when Dan kept shouting "Everywhere" in the dp crafting video he gives this looks to dan like b*tich shut up. It's hilarious He is just as sassy as Dan.manged wrote:None of it is, because I didn't I read your post lol. I might have to scroll back up and give it a glance, because I would definitely think that has more validity than, for example, saying his skull is so large because it holds an entire universe worth of creativity.crash[] wrote: I'm not sure how much of this is directed at my Phil/Stéphane post, but I gotta make clear that my intentions for that post were not to accentuate a perception on how weird Phil is. My main goal was to attempt figuring out why Phil related to this main character from a surrealist movie. Stéphane, as much of his character that I can gather from a Wikipedia article, is a character caught up in his imagination and drive for creativity and had no one that accepted or related to him on any level due to this. Essentially, what does Phil think of himself that makes him capable of seeing himself in this character? That's all, nothing about my own interpretations of Phil's personality.
Other than that, it does kind of suck that the common view of Phil is strangely romanticized the way it is. Not that aspects of Dan aren't, but for Phil, it seems especially so.
Anyway, I'm really flattered that some people were interested by what I said. Especially karma_yeah's post, gave me a fuzzy feel.
You ain't lying. I love that about him as well. However, I'm thinking more along the lines of how we have #campydan flailing his arms about, prissy-facing the shit out of his (cracked) lips, and what can be considered more effeminate inflections in his speech. Phil has those over-the-top moments too, but then he'll do it more subtly and I kind of get my life from it. I've labeled it #zestyphil because I can't think of a better descriptor atm.kuensukki wrote:UM I DO!!I'm pretty sure I always mention appreciating badass phil in his subtle teasing. He is a boss at keeping things below the surface so everything goes over your head the first time. He really knows how to wait and say something spontaneous, sometimes to get a rise out of Dan but other times because he's just a little troll. I'll be the first to say I hate the cinammon image of Phil in the phandom almost as much as I hate the depressed, suicidal existential image of Dan. He is no where near innocent and should not be babied. I think for Phil his polite caring nature gets interpreted the wrong way. Someone can be polite and kind but still be a little shit (Phil's case- I say that with the utmost fond).
To give a recent example, at like 6:35 of Tipsy Talk when he says he'd rather be a robot. That snappy little hand gesture. I don't know why I get my entire fucking life when he does those things. I just love the thought that he has that in him.
