Dan & Phil Part 46: Some kind of a gay backstory

[lefthandedism]

Is it just me or has Phil's facial hair been more noticeable in the past few DAPG videos? Especially in this sims video, I think I see more of a stache than usual...?

I think this got lost in the subsequent discussion, but I want to agree. I especially noticed it in his ASMR video, I think, and when he uses a reverse-color filter (lol I have no idea what those are called; it would be a negative if you were developing film).

Anyway, yes: Phil's facial hair seems more noticeable these days. Not that I'm an expert on male facial hair, but I assume it's a natural effect of age on hair and/or skin? I certainly associate the "5 o'clock shadow" thing more with a 40-year-old than with a 20-year-old.

Let me just affirm that I'm older than Phil, and there's nothing wrong with anyone being whatever age they are, just to tie back in with the surrounding discussion....

Edit: ooh, now it's my turn to make the top-of-the-page disclaimer

[adequate duck]

autistic person here: so i guess the question is, does dan research his memes? and if he does, is it on knowyourmeme or urbandictionary? if he knows the origin as stated on kym, then that's shitty. if knows it from ud, that's not shitty. if he wasn't even intentionally memeing and just typed something to sound like his rage sounds, that's also not shitty. i think it's probably this last one, maybe combined with having seen it as a common way of writing out rage sounds.

i also know quite a few people (pre-dating 4chan) who use similar sounds/words due to the sound of the stabbity stab music in movies like Psycho to express rage

edited to add: look i can get being offended at something you know as offensive, and that is understandable. my issue is with the fact that given a bit of time and inclination i can probably dig up almost anything being used as a slur/offensively somewhere. everyone has to draw their own line at how far is too far. if your line is different than my line, that's ok and perfectly normal. i am just not ok with people immediately assuming their line is the "correct" one and that everyone has the same experiences and knowledge they do.

[thephandommenace]

I've never heard of the meme at all. (I'm diagnosed on the autistic spectrum)

pretty much all autistic characteristics are called "weird" and most of the things people find it perfectly fine to laugh at connect back to being on the autistic spectrum, allistic people just often dont acknowledge it because its hilarious to make fun of 10 year old boys who get very excited by video games or adult men who are involved in hobbies people find childlike and who dont have very developed social skills. hilarious photos of someone wearing a strange outfit or doing something out of the ordinary in public? yeah...

this is why I hate shows like tbbt. ppl find it so fing hilarious and than they think that when I'm going through something it's just for a show or something. like it's so easy - I'm so old so why "I don't act like normal grown up" because the population is constantly fed that it's ok to laugh at "weird" things. that it's all maybe done on purpouse by us... (to be told by own fing mother when visiting that wtf is wrong with laughing at that and then a string of verbal insults and abuse, lovely)

but I kind of doubt that Dan knew the exact meaning - maybe he just seen it used as an expression of people getting angry? idk. seems unlikely to me that he would - I can see him doing it maybe back 4-5 years ago, but not sure he would now.

Agree with that - a fair few years ago nothing was really judged or off limits (didn't Phil make a rape joke in a deleted video?) because people really didn't understand how insulting they were being - actually, the constant rape jokes had been spread around so much that my brother and I started to use them casually when we were younger (a LOT younger) and it led to my mum breaking down infront of me and telling me she was raped when she was 14... that's one thing that definitely teaches you that those kind of jokes are wrong.

I barely knew it was associated with autism, I've seen austisim memes (and keep getting annoyed at one of my friends whenever he shares them with me because they really piss me off) but nothing like that tbh. Dan seeing it used as an expression of annoyance from the context and adopting it seems quite likely.

Oh God that's awful something similar happened when I had just started secondary school and people were throwing around this 'trendy' new word to refer to someone acting like an idiot. It was fun to say and I used it in front of my mum who promptly warned me not to say it in front of our next-door neighbour, as she'd just had a baby with Down's Syndrome, and it turned out this fun new word was actually a derogatory term for people with Down's. I was horrified when I realised I'd been throwing around this offensive word without realising what it really meant, promptly stopped using it and told my classmates what it meant whenever I next heard them say it, and they stopped as well.

We all know Dan would never knowingly make fun of autistic people. Unfortunately society and the language we use is often very casually ablist and we don't realise. Yes he probably doesn't know the origin of every meme but ignorance is no excuse to keep on saying it. I feel like if Dan was made aware of the origin of his language he would have a similar reaction to how I did ten years ago. Way before I was aware of anything PC or SJW or people getting offended or people getting annoyed at people for being offended.

[sapienveneficus]

THANK YOU! I've been following this conversation and contemplating how best to respond, but this is perfect! I have nothing to add. Except maybe we, as internet people, need to work on our outrage levels a bit. Tumblr users already have a bit of a reputation for being perpetually and unnecessarily offended, and I'd rather be known as a passionate fan/literary perv thank you very much.

You mean...

you try so hard to be peaceful and diplomatic
but can’t make toast without tumblr saying you’re problematic

Sorry, someone had to do it, right..? D: Hope I offended no one! Making fun of autistic people is not ok, but I think assuming Dan meant to do that is quite unfair too.

Yes!

[onetruetrash]

We all know Dan would never knowingly make fun of autistic people. Unfortunately society and the language we use is often very casually ablist and we don't realise. Yes he probably doesn't know the origin of every meme but ignorance is no excuse to keep on saying it.

Thank you! I kept on saying that and people just seemed to ignore it.

[awkwardly]

Hey Team Outrage - untwist your knickers and watch these:

and read this

Yes to all of this.

I honestly can't believe some people actually think Dan used a meme that is used to make fun of autistic people.

Especially since clearly the top definition on Urban Dictionary has nothing to do with that. And I think it is quite clear that Dan, and I'm assuming most people, use it with that definition in mind.

but no one is actually outraged here. (at least not at Dan). And at least I wasn't till I saw these posts. I'm sorry, but you are doing exactly the sort of problematic shit - rolling your eyes on people who are potentially upset because you can't grasp the concept of being upset and that is so WEIRD to you!
People were just calmly discussing the meaning and I think it's interesting that it was brought up since I didn't know about it. But you needed to put your 2 cents in that no one asked about putting down people. congrats to you.
(Now I'm going to be quietly outraged somewhere you can't see me. Pardon me for existing.

I've never heard of the meme at all. (I'm diagnosed on the autistic spectrum)

pretty much all autistic characteristics are called "weird" and most of the things people find it perfectly fine to laugh at connect back to being on the autistic spectrum, allistic people just often dont acknowledge it because its hilarious to make fun of 10 year old boys who get very excited by video games or adult men who are involved in hobbies people find childlike and who dont have very developed social skills. hilarious photos of someone wearing a strange outfit or doing something out of the ordinary in public? yeah...

this is why I hate shows like tbbt. ppl find it so fing hilarious and than they think that when I'm going through something it's just for a show or something. like it's so easy - I'm so old so why "I don't act like normal grown up" because the population is constantly fed that it's ok to laugh at "weird" things. that it's all maybe done on purpouse by us... (to be told by own fing mother when visiting that wtf is wrong with laughing at that and then a string of verbal insults and abuse, lovely)

but I kind of doubt that Dan knew the exact meaning - maybe he just seen it used as an expression of people getting angry? idk. seems unlikely to me that he would - I can see him doing it maybe back 4-5 years ago, but not sure he would now.

Agree with that - a fair few years ago nothing was really judged or off limits (didn't Phil make a rape joke in a deleted video?) because people really didn't understand how insulting they were being - actually, the constant rape jokes had been spread around so much that my brother and I started to use them casually when we were younger (a LOT younger) and it led to my mum breaking down infront of me and telling me she was raped when she was 14... that's one thing that definitely teaches you that those kind of jokes are wrong.

I barely knew it was associated with autism, I've seen austisim memes (and keep getting annoyed at one of my friends whenever he shares them with me because they really piss me off) but nothing like that tbh. Dan seeing it used as an expression of annoyance from the context and adopting it seems quite likely.

I'm so sorry about that. I remember looking forward to Ian McKellen's Vicious and then it was full of jokes like that. And I was really shocked cause I didn't notice anything like that online, so I don't even know that it was a thing. (But although I didn't notice it online this country is so shitty, that the TV and adverts are full of it. I kind of wish that sjw could somehow influence the reality allround)

But yeah, Dan seems to be the kind of person that even reads up on this stuff - not all of it, but he seems to be trying - at least that's the feeling I get from the ls. And I hope that I'm not wrong

[SquishPhan]

edited to add: look i can get being offended at something you know as offensive, and that is understandable. my issue is with the fact that given a bit of time and inclination i can probably dig up almost anything being used as a slur/offensively somewhere. everyone has to draw their own line at how far is too far. if your line is different than my line, that's ok and perfectly normal. i am just not ok with people immediately assuming their line is the "correct" one and that everyone has the same experiences and knowledge they do.

Hey Team Outrage - untwist your knickers and watch these:

and read this

Yes to all of this.

I honestly can't believe some people actually think Dan used a meme that is used to make fun of autistic people.

Especially since clearly the top definition on Urban Dictionary has nothing to do with that. And I think it is quite clear that Dan, and I'm assuming most people, use it with that definition in mind.

but no one is actually outraged here. (at least not at Dan). And at least I wasn't till I saw these posts. I'm sorry, but you are doing exactly the sort of problematic shit - rolling your eyes on people who are potentially upset because you can't grasp the concept of being upset and that is so WEIRD to you!
People were just calmly discussing the meaning and I think it's interesting that it was brought up since I didn't know about it. But you needed to put your 2 cents in that no one asked about putting down people. congrats to you.
(Now I'm going to be quietly outraged somewhere you can't see me. Pardon me for existing.

I rolled my eyes at people who actually believed that Dan would do such a thing on purpose. If you are not one of those people, then I fail to see why you would be outraged by my comment since it wasn't meant for you or really anyone here.
Also yes, no one asked for my opinion, but since this is a forum that I frequent I am going to give it anyway.

[onetruetrash]

but no one is actually outraged here. (at least not at Dan). And at least I wasn't till I saw these posts. I'm sorry, but you are doing exactly the sort of problematic shit - rolling your eyes on people who are potentially upset because you can't grasp the concept of being upset and that is so WEIRD to you!
People were just calmly discussing the meaning and I think it's interesting that it was brought up since I didn't know about it. But you needed to put your 2 cents in that no one asked about putting down people. congrats to you.
(Now I'm going to be quietly outraged somewhere you can't see me. Pardon me for existing.

Exactly! People are getting so mad that people felt offended by it. Like, actually mentally ill people, like myself, are actually offended by it. I don't know if the people getting mad are mentally ill but

1. If they are not mentally ill, then they have no right to comment about what is offensive to the mentally ill.

2. If they are mentally ill, they're ignoring the fact that other mentally ill are actually offended by something and supporting ableism instead of fighting it.

SquishPhan, no one was saying that Dan would do that on purpose, at least not that I saw, so I don't know who you're talking about exactly.

[onetruetrash]

Hey Team Outrage - untwist your knickers and watch these:




and read this

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee

"On February 21st, a Redditor submitted the question “Why do people on 4chan’s r9k say ‘REEEEEE’ all of a sudden?” to the /r/OutOfTheLoop subreddit, to which Redditor Dragon___ replied that the sound was similar to shrieks made by autistic people. On March 19th, Redditor Taaqif submitted another question about “Reeeeeee” comments to /r/OutOfTheLoop."

Dragon___'s comment reads: People on 4chan often call each other retarded or autistic. "REEEEE" is a typical noise a mentally ill person would make when upset. Hence, whenever someone on 4chan is upset, they just erupt into autistic and retarded shrieks.

Also this: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/com ... nt/dejvk3u

A simple Google search can give you some more examples.

Just putting this back out there because it looks like people didn't see it.

[myselfandI]

Coming out of the lurk just to say that I’m pretty disapointed in where this conversation is going. I had no idea what “REE” meant and just assumed it was a random combination of letters, but a quick google research taught me of it’s dark orgins.

So, does Dan ‘the memelord” not know the true meaning of that meme? Probably. Does it excuse the usage of the meme and take away the right of people being upset by it? NO.

Progress comes by learning from our mistakes and not repeating it, by ignoring the problem you are just letting it grow into something bigger. If someone used the N-word without knowing it negative aspect, would it make it okay? No, it wouldn’t. The person could not have a ill intend by using that word, but they are guilty of their own ignorence.

Dan may not have had the intention of offend anyone (what he obviously didn’t), but it still doesn’t make the meme in itself ok to be used even by people who don’t know it backstory. Dan used a problematic meme, he being aware of it or not. Now can people stop making excuses and calling out others who are genuinely offended by it as if they don’t have a reason to?

[adequate duck]

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee

"On February 21st, a Redditor submitted the question “Why do people on 4chan’s r9k say ‘REEEEEE’ all of a sudden?” to the /r/OutOfTheLoop subreddit, to which Redditor Dragon___ replied that the sound was similar to shrieks made by autistic people. On March 19th, Redditor Taaqif submitted another question about “Reeeeeee” comments to /r/OutOfTheLoop."

Dragon___'s comment reads: People on 4chan often call each other retarded or autistic. "REEEEE" is a typical noise a mentally ill person would make when upset. Hence, whenever someone on 4chan is upset, they just erupt into autistic and retarded shrieks.

Also this: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/com ... nt/dejvk3u

A simple Google search can give you some more examples.

Just putting this back out there because it looks like people didn't see it.

FYI: you can edit your posts for a while after posting so you can just add to your last post instead of making another. i don't know if you knew that but i know it took me a while to realise it after i started posting here so just in case you (or anyone else) didn't know.

also it's possible that people did see and read your posts but just chose to disregard it. i mean i am also on the autistic spectrum, and i don't find dan's post offensive at all, and it's not because i am supporting ableism or anything of that sort (although i can see why it might look that way), it's just i have a whole different background on in the internet than you do, and i don't count reddit as the authority on, well, anything

[Ilovethemohyesido]

I love the amount of anecdotes they talked about during the video.

Question, was this video post Florida? I asked because I thought Dan's face had more freckles than usual, but not sure if that's the case or Im just seeing what I want to see.

[jaej]

did anyone say he did it deliberately and get outraged? i've only taken the "IF he did know" sections of posts as a comparison to show that we arenthorrified if he said it and didnt know, more just annoyed that the word CAN be used deliberately by some people and think that someone with a big following should probably be more careful about using phrases they dont know the meaning of, especially when they probably first came across that phrase somewhere not known for being particularly kind and it does undeniably have some level of link to autistic behaviours even when not meant that way. people can be a little disappointed or critical without being outraged or something, ya know.

also i dont really take these sort of "well i know someone with autism and i treat HIM like a human" type statements as a shield to doing anything insensitive or a way to say someone doesnt need to learn more. discovering that autistic people can, surprise, be funny or smart despite communication problems isnt understanding the autism spectrum.
many of us have parents or family members or friends who accept that we CAN be like them but that doesnt mean they are understanding of behaviours classed as unusual or problems with overstimulation or the way we just act at sometimes.
finding it inspirational that someone on the spectrum has accomplished something doesnt mean you arent going to laugh at people just like them who fidget a lot or who are wearing something from a show you find cringey. "hahaahahah teenage boys and fidget spinners" shhhhhhh

[SquishPhan]

Coming out of the lurk just to say that I’m pretty disapointed in where this conversation is going. I had no idea what “REE” meant and just assumed it was a random combination of letters, but a quick google research taught me of it’s dark orgins.

So, does Dan ‘the memelord” not know the true meaning of that meme? Probably. Does it excuse the usage of the meme and take away the right of people being upset by it? NO.

Progress comes by learning from our mistakes and not repeating it, by ignoring the problem you are just letting it grow into something bigger. If someone used the N-word without knowing it negative aspect, would it make it okay? No, it wouldn’t. The person could not have a ill intend by using that word, but they are guilty of their own ignorence.

Dan may not have had the intention of offend anyone (what he obviously didn’t), but it still doesn’t make the meme in itself ok to be used even by people who don’t know it backstory. Dan used a problematic meme, he being aware of it or not. Now can people stop making excuses and calling out others who are genuinely offended by it as if they don’t have a reason to?

But the thing is that REEE has multiple meanings, and just because one of those meanings is bad doesn’t mean that we have to eliminate the ‘word’ (at least that is my opinion, but that is a whole different debate I realize). In this case, along with Dan’s other tweets (and his personality) I think it’s clear which definition he used.

[VengefulBlue]

everyone has to draw their own line at how far is too far. if your line is different than my line, that's ok and perfectly normal. i am just not ok with people immediately assuming their line is the "correct" one and that everyone has the same experiences and knowledge they do.

exactly! for me, the line is if dan himself is aware of the offensive meme usage, because this is one case where the meme in question has many possible origins. if he knows it as an offensive thing, he shouldn't use it. he probably doesn't tho, so it's okay.

edit: here's the thing - it's not necessarily ableist. like i said in my earlier post, he probably just was looking for a way to type out his own rage noise (which we know he makes bc videos) and came up with 'reeeee', and maybe he's seen that as a common way of typing rage sounds. it probably doesn't even connect to 4chan's usage. so as a mentally ill (and also autistic, those are separate things) person, i can say i'm not supporting ableism. if you're offended by it that's okay, but i'm not, and that's also okay. to me it's the same as saying 'squee' to mean loud happy squealing. that's also an autistic thing sometimes, and i don't see anyone getting mad about neurotypical people using that.

tldr: you can be offended and i can be unoffended, and that doesn't make me ableist. neurotypical people can make emotional noises and use written language to show those noises, that isn't exclusive to autistic people. also, autistic and mentally ill are not synonymous.

[onetruetrash]

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee

"On February 21st, a Redditor submitted the question “Why do people on 4chan’s r9k say ‘REEEEEE’ all of a sudden?” to the /r/OutOfTheLoop subreddit, to which Redditor Dragon___ replied that the sound was similar to shrieks made by autistic people. On March 19th, Redditor Taaqif submitted another question about “Reeeeeee” comments to /r/OutOfTheLoop."

Dragon___'s comment reads: People on 4chan often call each other retarded or autistic. "REEEEE" is a typical noise a mentally ill person would make when upset. Hence, whenever someone on 4chan is upset, they just erupt into autistic and retarded shrieks.

Also this: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/com ... nt/dejvk3u

A simple Google search can give you some more examples.

Just putting this back out there because it looks like people didn't see it.

FYI: you can edit your posts for a while after posting so you can just add to your last post instead of making another. i don't know if you knew that but i know it took me a while to realise it after i started posting here so just in case you (or anyone else) didn't know.

also it's possible that people did see and read your posts but just chose to disregard it. i mean i am also on the autistic spectrum, and i don't find dan's post offensive at all, and it's not because i am supporting ableism or anything of that sort (although i can see why it might look that way), it's just i have a whole different background on in the internet than you do, and i don't count reddit as the authority on, well, anything

I know I can edit my posts, I was making sure people saw the post since it was on the last page and everyone was supporting the counterargument to my original post and when I said counteracted that, no one said anything.

Reddit isn't authority over anything, but they are using the meme in the way I described.

Obviously you don't have to be offended or anything, it's just that people are flat out ignoring the people who are actually offended and that's a problem.

[SquishPhan]

This is unexpected. Anyone know who she is?

[crash[]]

Okay, there's a severe lack of context here that makes this conversation go nowhere fast.

Let's get one thing straight here: KYM gets it wrong with their meme definitions sometimes. As people in the comments of the article pointed out, the definition and research is very small and not descriptive enough. This is because "REEEEE" is just a frog scream, because the people of /r9k/ cling to Pepe as their "avatar" (for lack of better word), who is a frog. It's really that simple.

The bit about the Reddit comment saying that it's about autistic people-- and my blame goes mostly to the person that made this article for not reading this comment correcty-- is calling the people of 4chan "retarded and autistic", not that the meme was inspired by autistic people. /r9k/ is a board filled with depressed, suicidal shut-ins that blame their shortcomings for their lack of social progress in life, one of these shortcomings being their mental illness. Of course, 4chan is hardly a "safe space" for mentally ill people, but /r9k/ in particular is seen as a haven for these people to anonymously rant about their shitty lives and not be criticized by "normies" (who in this case would be neurotypical, successful people). It genuinely makes no sense for a board that is known for this to have a meme that is seemingly so ableist towards themselves.

Dan's tweet is literally taking on the role of an angry person ranting about normal people and using "REEEEE" to express this rage. That's it. He's done it on video before with the proper context, even.

5:39


Another thing to get straight: Dan goes on 4chan. He's said it before. He's used memes from there before (and, technically, so have all of us). It just baffles me that people seem to think that Dan is a normal person using the internet, when he's literally been on it since the beginning? Of course he's going to be using 4chan memes, what do you expect?

tl;dr: Stop going on KYM, actually do some proper research next time before blowing your load, and maybe chill out. Maybe? I don't know, you do you.

t. Someone who goes on 4chan still even if it's hell on earth.

[thephandommenace]

Yeeeeeesssss Shawna!!!
I'm so happy to see them collab, why hasn't this happened before?
Cute video, even though I rarely watch anime these days. All my anime knowledge is like 2010 and back from there.

Edit:

This is unexpected. Anyone know who she is?

Old school YouTuber

[lishachi]

This is unexpected. Anyone know who she is?

Absolutely not idea but Phil looks so good. Also he seems pretty comfortable with her and she seems chill (also beautiful wtf) anyway, was a nice little vid (Was weird seeing Phil in a vid with a girl! haha)

Also is Phils voice deeper here or??? He sounds much lower pitched.

[thestigdrivesamini]

I LOVED Phil in the anime video. He seemed so comfortable and natural. Not forced or persona filled ( I hate that word too. Sorry). Did anyone else notice how he was a bit hesitant with the physical contact. I guess that's only reserved for SOME people
I've never heard of the girl, but I get good vibes from her. She seems cool

[DatCog]

This is unexpected. Anyone know who she is?

Aww I enjoyed that and the lighting was so nice...Phil's eyes looked amazing! I'm looking forward to seeing the other video they did together.

[SquishPhan]

That was a cute video, but I was hoping for some deeper opinions. Hopefully we'll get some of that in part 2.
Also excited to see what they did as a collab for Phil's channel.
I like that Phil does collab with 'smaller' channels, usually ones he has known for a while.

[myselfandI]

Coming out of the lurk just to say that I’m pretty disapointed in where this conversation is going. I had no idea what “REE” meant and just assumed it was a random combination of letters, but a quick google research taught me of it’s dark orgins.

So, does Dan ‘the memelord” not know the true meaning of that meme? Probably. Does it excuse the usage of the meme and take away the right of people being upset by it? NO.

Progress comes by learning from our mistakes and not repeating it, by ignoring the problem you are just letting it grow into something bigger. If someone used the N-word without knowing it negative aspect, would it make it okay? No, it wouldn’t. The person could not have a ill intend by using that word, but they are guilty of their own ignorence.

Dan may not have had the intention of offend anyone (what he obviously didn’t), but it still doesn’t make the meme in itself ok to be used even by people who don’t know it backstory. Dan used a problematic meme, he being aware of it or not. Now can people stop making excuses and calling out others who are genuinely offended by it as if they don’t have a reason to?

But the thing is that REEE has multiple meanings, and just because one of those meanings is bad doesn’t mean that we have to eliminate the ‘word’ (at least that is my opinion, but that is a whole different debate I realize). In this case, along with Dan’s other tweets (and his personality) I think it’s clear which definition he used.

I think that in a way we are all on the same page, what makes the conversation even more frustrating tbh

I don’t think anyone is blaming Dan or acusing him of anything, I think we all got to the same conclusion that whatever is the true meaning of that meme, Dan obviously just used it to express his feeling at the time and nothing else.

But it still upsets me when Dan does or say something problematic and people just excuse it because “he didn’t mean it that way”. I know that there is different niches on the internet and I’m probably in the less deep one, I also don’t like the usage of the word “normie”, but that’s a whole new conversation as well.

I just think that we should appreciate learning something new today what may or not have some reflect on our personal lives. I never saw the “REE” meme being used before, so I could just never know about it, but now I do and it will just be another word that I’ll keep away from my vocabulary for various reasons.

OBS: I think that the way that people choose to express their opinion also has a lot to do with why that conversation took the turn it did, maybe next time we should all just choose our words more carefully to try and make sure no one feel ignored or attacked when giving their opinion. Back to lurking

[obliviongrace]

Sorry to interrupt the meme conversation happening (which I would join in with but I have next to no knowledge so instead I'm reading and learning), but I want to say that was the sweetest little collab ever. I love how you can tell they actually know each other and are actually friends, and I loved the way they bounced off each other comfortably. I love seeing this Phil in videos (I guess the word is less-persona-y), which isn't always the case even in his collabs with Dan. So, yeah, I loved this, and it seems as if a part 2 will be coming eventually + a collab on Phil's channel?? Sign me up. (It will also be interesting to see if Phil is more persona-y on his channel?)