Dan & Phil Part 29: Horton hears two b*tch ass liars

[SquishPhan]

We now have confirmation from Dan himself that the baking vid wasn’t scripted at all. They just turned on the camera and filmed.

Sadly it does seem that we won’t get a festive baking this year (though knowing these two one can never be sure).

[psychicmoth]

DAPGO spoiler

Source: http://dapgo-spoilers.tumblr.com/post/152603909182

Dan and his tiny bunk
I'm wonder if they mentioned it in other pages too.

That page doesn't show Dan's ("Dan's") bunk though? In the photos of him sleeping, he's on the couch. (Unless you're talking about a different photo and I'm just blind, lol)

dapgo spoiler

I suppose those are the bunks?

btw dan's liveshow!
Dan, don't apologize for that beautiful video please.

[fancy_nancy]

So, i can't get younow to load on my laptop, it doesn't work on tumblr either, and not even the app is working, is this happening to anyone else?

[The_Blonde]

So, i can't get younow to load on my laptop, it doesn't work on tumblr either, and not even the app is working, is this happening to anyone else?

It didn't work on tumblr for me for aaagggeesss, but has just started working there in the last five minutes so try again!

[melon lord]

Dear god the stream is so laggy I give up, I'll watch it on phanshows

how do they always manage to have good quality streams?

I'll wait for you guys' timestamps and commentary for now

[eevee]

I'm not sure why you're feeling so defensive. This is like #NotAllMen mentality. If you feel that what I discuss doesn't apply to you then it doesn't. And if you can't see the problems I have with certain aspects of shipping real people then I'm sorry

Key word being certain aspects. Which I assume you mean are the invasive aspects that ends up getting to the real people being shipped. I've tried explaining to you that I'm not talking about people who throw shipping in the people it concern's faces. I feel I've made that clear. And yet you continue to say that shipping is bad because it gets to the real people. That it's bad because of the intense minority. Blaming me for the intense minority. Blaming all shippers for the intense minority.

Don't you dare compare me to abusive men. Don't. You. Dare.

By RPF I assume you mean real person fiction? I explained in my post: Write what you want. Draw what you want. Do it to practise or cause it makes you horny or you just wanna write about two guys having sex. You can still be part of a community and share and inspire art and fiction and NOT be invasive. You actually can do that. I love the fics that members here write! I actually do read them. I don't find anyone here being invasive because I haven't seen any member here (of the active ones at least) be pushy or shovey down peoples' throats.

So how the actual fuck is writing sexual RPF that you don't show to deppy in any way different from talking about deppy in a sexual way anywhere else that you're not showing to them?

My problem is with your blanket argument. My problem is that you're claiming my personal beliefs are problematic. So yeah, I'm getting defensive.

[fancybum]

Is this liveshow pretty wild? I think it's pretty wild. Have they said there's a restaurant underneath them before (35:50)? Like they themselves? That feels like a privacy slip (if not, but maybe they have). More evidence for moving soon? Not caring if people have more info about their building..

Twitter's saying he almost slipped with 'boyf--' then changed to person? I didn't catch that though.

Also said (52:00) he'd rather have the games (Pokemon S&M/Final Fantasy) at different times so he could play one while at home for Xmas rather than talk to his family. Interesting, noted. Live for those little mentions tbh.

Also Phil this, Phil that. (39:30) Phil's still got me watching the X factor. Peer pressure to do what "Phil likes". (43:10) Phil and I watch Black Mirror "last" (like.. before bed?).

From 18:15: "what crazy world are we going to live in from now on" INDEED

Also it sounds like Phil's vid is going to be an anime one involving Dan, followed by a DINI video of more recommendations? Joint content is joint.

Also 4:45, the baking vid was "a hot sexual mess". Yup.

[Ticia]

People on Twitter say that Dan said "a terrible boyfr-person". Real or not real?

[hannah]

Everyone on twitter going rabid because apparently Dan almost said "boyfriend" when referring to Phil.
The one liveshow I don't watch.
edit: Ticia beat me. Imo it could just be one of those situations where he read the chat and got it jumbled up with his words.

[lilMango]

Even though I wasn't too excited for the liveshow, I watched it and I'm glad I did becAUSE WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT PHIL PRESSURING HIM INTO WATCHING SHOWS HE LEGIT SAID
"Phil is good at peer pressuring you.... he makes you feel like a terrible blerson"
BLERSON
I KNOW I HAVE PHAN GOGGLES BUT FUCKING BLERSON??
He was about to say boyfriend don't @ me

[majitzu]

ok ok just stop, you disagree, and I'm tired of this (of course you are free of discussing and totally ignore me but this is ridiculous) edit: this is for the people still discussing baitinf or whatever

what i was going to sayy... oh yeah, I like this ls, Dan was more chill and I didn't have any lag

[fancybum]

People on Twitter say that Dan said "a terrible boyfr-person". Real or not real?

OK people are talking about around 40:28 after reading the comment telling him he doesn't have to watch everything Phil does (right after saying 'Extra Factor', so already Dan+words=no today edit: um unless that's another show? like the Talking Dead?, lol idk what britain's got going on):
"how compelling Phil peer pressures you and makes you feel like a terrible person"

On second (third fourth) listen, my ears say no, he was just falling all over his words (more so the 'terrible' part, 'person' came out ok).

[000dia000]

tbh the debate has gotten a lot more personal than topical

and he said make a "buh" sound that in context sounded like boyfriend, this isn't a single person spreading a rumor, a lot of people picked up on it, then again this doesn't mean anything, it's a funny slip up we just roll our eyes at tbh and move on

[Skeletorsrighthand]

First 'live" live show i watched in a long time,now i remember how demoralizing it is not to be noticed.

[Philena]

I am still hearing "blerson." And he had said person quite clearly about 4 times in the previous minute.

[Ticia]

OK, I'm going to post an actual shit message here on IDB.

Baking video: top bantz, the result was a fucking mess though.

Sherlocking activity on my behalf:

1st. They have a Youtube button thing in the damn kitchen. The tough life of a Youtube sensation.



2nd. Jumpcut, then both have suspiciously red chins. My screenshot could've been way better, but there you have the timestamp in case you want to check it out yourselves.

[bluebox-away]

Sorry for this being wildly offtopic but if I wanted to watch Dan's LS, and it was usually at 4 am my time... Is it now 3 am or 5 am my time? I know the clocks moved over in other areas in the world but our area doesn't do that so I have no idea how it affected those countries that don't have DST (it's the reason why they move the clocks backwards/forwards right?).

What used to be 9 pm is now 8 pm, so the ls is an hour later now for you.

Extremely off topic but my Russian copy of tabinof arrived today … my Russian is extremely rudimentary so there'll be loads of stuff I haven't picked up on, but here's my first impressions.

I bought it from a site called ozon.ru which delivers to Europe: the book itself cost about the same as it would in the UK (maybe a bit less) but then I had to pay at least the same amount again for postage obviously. It took about a month to arrive, but according to the tracking most of that time was getting out of Russia.

The book is a bit bigger than the UK version, on the same nice matte paper, the covers are made of slightly thinner cardboard. It's good quality like the original, made a lovely cracking sound when i opened it, mmm.

Here's a picture with the UK copy on top that shows how much bigger the Russian one is.


The one big thing that I found interesting was the extent to which it's made really clear who Dan and Phil are on the cover. The book's subtitle isn't “the world of Dan and Phil” but “история youtube-сенсаций дэна и фила”: “the story of the YouTube sensations* dan and phil”, clearly showing that they’re YouYubers. On the spine, this is in bigger writing than the rest of the title.
[*I think сенсаций might actually be in the singular, implying they’re just one sensation between them!!! but someone whose Russian is better than mine (i.e. anyone who speaks any Russian at all) will have to confirm]
On the back too, it has their names and YouTube urls above their pictures just to make it extra clear who they are.




Info from the copyright page: the translator is someone called E. Vyalova, it’s published by a company called Izdatelstvo, and it’s classed as 16+, lol (thanks for making me feel better about my life choices i guess).

On p. 12 there's a translator's note that Martyn is Phil's brother … seems unnecessary.

The height joke (6'3"/6'2.9") is converted into cm so it doesn’t really work (also they put 190cm and 187 cm, so 6'2" for Phil anyway. #exposed).

I was wondering how they’d do the A-Z: turns out they’ve put the original on the left hand page and then given a straight translation on the right hand page, so they haven't tried to maintain the alphabetical order in Russian (would have been pretty impossible). It's the same with anything handwritten (Dan’s dream journal, and Phil’s childhood diary, pinof 1 questions), so there are more pages in the Russian edition.

The translator adds an explanatory note in several places, where there are references to things like Ribena, Harry Potter, Final Fantasy, etc.

If anyone wants to know the Russian for “hahahahahahahahahahahahaha no”:


All the MSN slang in the chat logs is translated into Russian—idk if it’s Russian MSN slang or just standard Russian.

The screenshot of Phil’s youtube channel from 2008(?) has all been translated and looks pretty realistic. Same for the old screenshot of Dan’s channel. Pictures with a lot of text in them tend to be translated (e.g. email screenshots, Dan's dropping out of uni letter), although the text in Dan's doodles isn't.

Not translated: things like this where it's just little pictures with not much text e.g. this


RIP DARREN is translated as ПОКОЙСЯ С МИРОМ, ДАРРЕН; RIP SIMON is just RIP САЙМОН. I guess they couldn’t fit покойся с миром on a toilet roll.

This looks cuter in Russian idk why


[unrelated observation, I love that so many of Dan’s pages end with “conclusion”, haha. #gobacktounidan]

The one-word story game isn't mapped onto the original speakers (not sure I'm great at explaining this) so as Russian word order is different, the words in red aren't necessarily the ones Dan said, the words in blue aren't necessarily the ones Phil said. I guess alternatively they could have tried to make them match, but then they wouldn't have alternated properly.

I had thought the fake classy stuff about how they make videos might make a thing about using the polite ‘you’ form instead of sticking with the informal one like the rest of the book does, but nope, it sticks with the informal ‘you’.

The Simglish in Draw Dil’s Life is the same as in the original, not in Cyrillic.

The pun in “Phil’s phears” is left out, as is the sentence underneath about not being able to resist the pun.

This made me laugh cause the word совет accompanied by red stars tends to have different connotations …


I didn't notice until right near the end, but the printing is a little bit darker all the way through. This is particularly noticeable on the elderly Dan and Phil page: not so much cryogenics as tanning beds.


& now I'm looking forward to laboriously improving my Russian.

As someone who also has rudimentary Russian this is super interesting! Honestly v impressed by your dedication to a) order it all the way from russia for b) double the normal price and c) try and translate bits of it for us and compare the too books.

Off to watch the live show now cause when I tried it live it was truly lag-tastic. Also, interesting them mentioning the restaurant below them, definitely not common knowledge as far as I know unless you actually know where they live which lots us here do but that's besides the point. Sounds to me like a move might really be on the cards soon. Where's Spider? Maybe that spring 2017 prediction might be right after all

[mio]

Is this liveshow pretty wild? I think it's pretty wild. Have they said there's a restaurant underneath them before (35:50)? Like they themselves? That feels like a privacy slip (if not, but maybe they have). More evidence for moving soon? Not caring if people have more info about their building..

Also it sounds like Phil's vid is going to be an anime one involving Dan, followed by a DINI video of more recommendations? Joint content is joint.

ABout the house: we got another moving mention with the suitcases
Did he say #danandphilneedstorage or was that just me? anyway, he seemed to be really insistent about this...

I found it funny how he just went "we are filming a video for Phil's channel next" as if they don't actually have their own channels but instead three channels that they manage together (see the baking video where it was just a given that Phil was there...)

[Artdefines06]

So, about Dapgo (putting under spoiler so I don't depress anyone)

So far the pictures I'm seeing aren't really what I wanted lol. Its strange im sure, but I wanted to see the places they went, I was thinking more like a travel picture book, not a "look how cute we are together" book. I'm honestly going to be embarrassed about owning it. I was going to give it as a gift, but now I feel I should keep it and hide it, or idk give it away here if it makes me feel really uncomfortable because it's not what I thought it was. I wanted pictures of US landmarks and theaters, not pictures of boys >.< My mistake.

I'm still going to the LA event to see them and get the book though lol.

[fancybum]

I found it funny how he just went "we are filming a video for Phil's channel next" as if they don't actually have their own channels but instead three channels that they manage together (see the baking video where it was just a given that Phil was there...)

Clearly they've fully given into the joint identity bestowed upon them by the Teen Award: Danandphil, the Best Vlogger of 2016. All just so they don't have to saw that award in half .

[swofro]

Boyf-person / blerson part for anyone who miss it

[Philena]

So, about Dapgo (putting under spoiler so I don't depress anyone)

So far the pictures I'm seeing aren't really what I wanted lol. Its strange im sure, but I wanted to see the places they went, I was thinking more like a travel picture book, not a "look how cute we are together" book. I'm honestly going to be embarrassed about owning it. I was going to give it as a gift, but now I feel I should keep it and hide it, or idk give it away here if it makes me feel really uncomfortable because it's not what I thought it was. I wanted pictures of US landmarks and theaters, not pictures of boys >.< My mistake.

I'm still going to the LA event to see them and get the book though lol.

I'm finding the spoilers a bit weird, too. I am hoping that the rest of the book has actual touristy images, and maybe people are just leaking the shippy pics. Also, the captioning is so cringy to me. I was hoping for slightly more introspection. But, ya know, it's supposed to be cheesy.

[anathema]

I don't think he was about to say "boyfriend". He didn't hesitate or have an "oh crap" face or anything, so I think he just accidentally said "blerson" because he had said "terrible" right before.

It's really interesting he mentioned the restaurant underneath them, but I don't think it means they're moving (at least, not soon). Wouldn't they wait until their lease is up to move? Also now that it's common knowledge can we ask how the hell their building is laid out because I'm confused by it

[flarequake]

dapgo spoiler:

(source)

HE's sITting On hIM?????!???!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Therefore Phil sitting on Dan/leaning against him and possibly watching TV is a regular Thursday?

Aside from how close together they might sit on Thursdays, from the way Dan has his feet to one side, Phil's next to him rather than on his lap. That would've been cute, but also leave Phil too high up.

That was a nice liveshow, quite chill, though he looked tired, same redness in his eyes as in the baking video. Busy bunny is tired. Glad for confirmation that the police haven't been called before. Funny that Phil makes Dan watch crap TV, but apparently Dan can send Phil to stand in the hallway when he's naughty Some good rants and opinions, good infos about things, it was cute seeing him answering Adziedoodle's questions, and calling her Doodle, though he got sidetracked off Final Fantasy by Pokemon. I think I'd keep a baby Litten too.

[crash[]]

So, Target 100% has DAPGO in shelves early. Go check your local Target.

After a quick skim, gotta say I'm glad I bought the e-book version. Maybe I'm just a HD elitist, but these pictures aren't as great on paper as they will be digital.

For example,

There was a sequence of pictures of Phil feeding Dan medicine and the middle panel gets interrupted by the book binding. :/ I know that dapgo-spoilers blog has that particular sequence up, so you can see for yourself.

So, about Dapgo (putting under spoiler so I don't depress anyone)

So far the pictures I'm seeing aren't really what I wanted lol. Its strange im sure, but I wanted to see the places they went, I was thinking more like a travel picture book, not a "look how cute we are together" book. I'm honestly going to be embarrassed about owning it. I was going to give it as a gift, but now I feel I should keep it and hide it, or idk give it away here if it makes me feel really uncomfortable because it's not what I thought it was. I wanted pictures of US landmarks and theaters, not pictures of boys >.< My mistake.

I'm still going to the LA event to see them and get the book though lol.

There are touristy pictures. Tons of them, actually, so don't fret.

DAPGO spoiler

Source: http://dapgo-spoilers.tumblr.com/post/152603909182

Dan and his tiny bunk
I'm wonder if they mentioned it in other pages too.

That page doesn't show Dan's ("Dan's") bunk though? In the photos of him sleeping, he's on the couch. (Unless you're talking about a different photo and I'm just blind, lol)

dapgo spoiler

I suppose those are the bunks?

btw dan's liveshow!
Dan, don't apologize for that beautiful video please.

In that particular page, Dan is just doing a yoga pose. There's an entire spread dedicated to Dan waking up in the bunk and Phil waking up in the bed, though. :[