I think this is why Dan plays most of the games - because when he has nothing else to do but make commentary, he turns into a bratty little shit who just wants to critique the game/Phil's skills more than actually try and make it seem like they're having fun.
That said, still liked the video. It's equally fun for me to watch them in this kind of scenario as it is them playing something they're genuinely into.
Fully disagree that the gaming channel was created just to spon the future book and tour/build their brand together, but a gaming channel was a business decision and I think, in true form to them, when making business decisions they try to go with a mix of indulgence/things that they enjoy and just solid financial decision making. The original FNAF is their third most popular video on the channel, it has over five million views. Dan might resent having to play the sequels but they are proven popular. I also understand them wanting to keep games they enjoy to themselves. Playing something with an audience of millions undoubtedly turns it into something that is less of an escape and more just a part of their job.
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Dan is a BIG man.gnostic wrote:All I can th ink of looking at those pictures is OH MY GOD, Dan is SO MUCH gianter than Phil, I always notice it but here it's outright insultingmajitzu wrote:We talk about it, is a photoshop or a weird visual ilusion, I don't remember witch.dans left hand wrote:[offtopic][/offtopic]
i have no idea how i found this (in the depths of google on page 10) heres the link to the google
heres the pics:
BTW imma just gonna sit here and stare at the glory of Phil's hips in those shorts.
Sweet Jesus...
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His butt is so cutejesuisunèléve wrote:
BTW imma just gonna sit here and stare at the glory of Phil's hips in those shorts.
Sweet Jesus...
Dat Shakira gloryjesuisunèléve wrote:Dan is a BIG man.gnostic wrote:All I can th ink of looking at those pictures is OH MY GOD, Dan is SO MUCH gianter than Phil, I always notice it but here it's outright insultingmajitzu wrote:We talk about it, is a photoshop or a weird visual ilusion, I don't remember witch.dans left hand wrote:[offtopic][/offtopic]
i have no idea how i found this (in the depths of google on page 10) heres the link to the google
heres the pics:
BTW imma just gonna sit here and stare at the glory of Phil's hips in those shorts.
Sweet Jesus...
Dan's gotta be higher than Google tells me, he looks AT LEAST as tall as my brother who is 1.93
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Hi all, long time lurker etc.
Today's Sonic video was pretty poor content, in my view. Dan clearly wasn't excited by it from the beginning. Phil played well and was more into it. They needed to be on the same page: either both take it seriously, or both laugh at it, but Dan just ended up looking a little obnoxious because Phil was trying hard and he didn't really care.
It improved a lot somewhere in the second game, after both became more engaged with the storyline. Overall, /5
Today's Sonic video was pretty poor content, in my view. Dan clearly wasn't excited by it from the beginning. Phil played well and was more into it. They needed to be on the same page: either both take it seriously, or both laugh at it, but Dan just ended up looking a little obnoxious because Phil was trying hard and he didn't really care.
It improved a lot somewhere in the second game, after both became more engaged with the storyline. Overall, /5
Best part of the new video right here:
I accidentally got attention for my grumpy comment under the video - it's weird seeing so many people agreeing with negativity on a D&P video, it's usually such a positive crowd.

Hope Outlast's cool.
And that the next video after that isn't a spooky Dil. <-- me in case of Dil
I accidentally got attention for my grumpy comment under the video - it's weird seeing so many people agreeing with negativity on a D&P video, it's usually such a positive crowd.

Hope Outlast's cool.
And that the next video after that isn't a spooky Dil. <-- me in case of Dil
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one of those thumbs up is from me, and honestly that sums up my opinion on both this and yesterday's videofelucca wrote:Best part of the new video right here:
I accidentally got attention for my grumpy comment under the video - it's weird seeing so many people agreeing with negativity on a D&P video, it's usually such a positive crowd.
Hope Outlast's cool.
And that the next video after that isn't a spooky Dil. <-- me in case of Dil
i know some people still find it enjoyable, but personally knowing that they are playing something they don't like at all completely ruins it for me, it's not even a problem of them pretending to like it or not, hell, i think i like it more when they are at least honest
it's not even a problem of it being a 'serious' game or a shitpost on game form as sonic.exe is, i LOVE the impossible quiz videos, idc what the heck they play as long as they are genuinely into it
i understand and respect why they wouldn't want to play their fave games on camera, but didn't they think of that before deciding to have a gaming channel jfc
that being said, i'm fan of seeing them play 'serious' games, pt is my favorite dapg video after all, so i'm REALLY excited for the outlast 2 demo tomorrow, i've watched a few let's plays and it's a solid 5/5 spook as dan said
tl; dr: so far they are dreading it, i am dreading it, why is this happening, ugh, but there's still hope
off topic: now that skyrim special edition has come out and a few youtubers have decided to go back to playing it i really want to see deppy playing it, and by playing it i mean getting distracted by random shit and doing random side quests not playing the actual main quest ever, also skyrim is a ridiculous game at times (think the sims randomness game of thrones edition) i'm pretty sure they would have plenty of # bantz for the peeps that watch the gaming channel but are not really into gaming
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Day two Let’s cut to the chase:
Again, mediocre game(s) but I’m more than here for the bantz. I know we’ve got the real spookiness coming and I’ve been catching up on Black Mirror for my Halloween chills/wtfs in the meantime.
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Is it just me, or did Dan seem really... moody/pretentious in the Sonic video?
Like I really looked forward to that video as I used to really like Creepypasta so at least I had prior knowledge, but he just kept criticising everything. Every jumpscare he 'fake screamed' at, implying people that found it scary were young/stupid.
I get he's bored of it, or found it childish, but what does he expect when he caters to a young audience?
And why play a game if you're just going to moan and whinge through it, it makes you look quite obnoxious/pretentious..
Glad Phil put in the effort though.
(Also, nice seizure joke thing Dan. I thought you were 100% PC but it seems I was wrong)
Like I really looked forward to that video as I used to really like Creepypasta so at least I had prior knowledge, but he just kept criticising everything. Every jumpscare he 'fake screamed' at, implying people that found it scary were young/stupid.
I get he's bored of it, or found it childish, but what does he expect when he caters to a young audience?
And why play a game if you're just going to moan and whinge through it, it makes you look quite obnoxious/pretentious..
Glad Phil put in the effort though.
(Also, nice seizure joke thing Dan. I thought you were 100% PC but it seems I was wrong)
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TBH looks like they went to intertwine fingers and then realised what they were doing in publicmajitzu wrote:It's just that Dan tends to gravitated towards Phil when he walks so it seems like they are touching
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I don't think that pretentious is the right word to describe it. More like critical. I didn't think he was being condescending either. He just didn't like the game lol.wolfgutscharlie wrote:Is it just me, or did Dan seem really... moody/pretentious in the Sonic video?
Like I really looked forward to that video as I used to really like Creepypasta so at least I had prior knowledge, but he just kept criticising everything. Every jumpscare he 'fake screamed' at, implying people that found it scary were young/stupid.
I get he's bored of it, or found it childish, but what does he expect when he caters to a young audience?
And why play a game if you're just going to moan and whinge through it, it makes you look quite obnoxious/pretentious..
Glad Phil put in the effort though.
(Also, nice seizure joke thing Dan. I thought you were 100% PC but it seems I was wrong)
i gotta say i actually quite liked the video?! I am done with this Sonic.exe since the beginnings of time (it was never good, even the 1st one) but Dan being so done with it and Phil very poorly trying to make us believe he was interested was actually pretty funny.
I liked it a lot more than when they pretended to be immersed and scared in the 2 installments of that thing they did the years before. The bants felt pretty authentic and unscripted too.
Obviously i would prefer they played games they actually enjoyed but they have for some reason decided against it something like 2 years ago now and appart very very rare exceptions like PT have consistently played only games they don't give a shit about and very often despise too.
I liked it a lot more than when they pretended to be immersed and scared in the 2 installments of that thing they did the years before. The bants felt pretty authentic and unscripted too.
Obviously i would prefer they played games they actually enjoyed but they have for some reason decided against it something like 2 years ago now and appart very very rare exceptions like PT have consistently played only games they don't give a shit about and very often despise too.
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Re: Sonic 2 Exe.
What did we actually expect from a sonic exe game, I mean I could have written it better
How many Layers of Irony was Dan on that video 5 or 6 maybe he just seemed so done at that point I agree with everyone here, just play what you like nobodies going to murder you over it and we might have fun watching it while you actually will have fun too why did you make a gaming channel if your not going to have fun on it. I like it this time with Phil on the helm he was actually trying while Dan just talked in the corner
Well ill still look forward to the next 3 videos
What did we actually expect from a sonic exe game, I mean I could have written it better
How many Layers of Irony was Dan on that video 5 or 6 maybe he just seemed so done at that point I agree with everyone here, just play what you like nobodies going to murder you over it and we might have fun watching it while you actually will have fun too why did you make a gaming channel if your not going to have fun on it. I like it this time with Phil on the helm he was actually trying while Dan just talked in the corner
Well ill still look forward to the next 3 videos
I would love them to play open world games even if they have played it before it would still be fun to watch. skyrim, fall out new Vegas (that's my shit right there), fallout 4.off topic: now that skyrim special edition has come out and a few youtubers have decided to go back to playing it i really want to see deppy playing it, and by playing it i mean getting distracted by random shit and doing random side quests not playing the actual main quest ever, also skyrim is a ridiculous game at times (think the sims randomness game of thrones edition) i'm pretty sure they would have plenty of # bantz for the peeps that watch the gaming channel but are not really into gaming

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Critical yes, maybe we have different views of what being pretentious is like however that to me, was pretentious. He didn't like the game but he didn't need to act like he did, it just felt quite rude and "oh I don't like this I'm going to let everyone know I don't like this whilst making fun of people that actually like this because they're 7".spaceguitar wrote:I don't think that pretentious is the right word to describe it. More like critical. I didn't think he was being condescending either. He just didn't like the game lol.wolfgutscharlie wrote:Is it just me, or did Dan seem really... moody/pretentious in the Sonic video?
Like I really looked forward to that video as I used to really like Creepypasta so at least I had prior knowledge, but he just kept criticising everything. Every jumpscare he 'fake screamed' at, implying people that found it scary were young/stupid.
I get he's bored of it, or found it childish, but what does he expect when he caters to a young audience?
And why play a game if you're just going to moan and whinge through it, it makes you look quite obnoxious/pretentious..
Glad Phil put in the effort though.
(Also, nice seizure joke thing Dan. I thought you were 100% PC but it seems I was wrong)
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Dan has got to be at least 6'4. Maybe he seems so tall because Phil has bad posture?
I've been very busy with school in the last few days, so I only got to watch halfway through the first video and haven't yet watched the second one.
I'm so late to this, but you guys did a great job with the theme and the new emojis.
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Re: Sonic.exe Prissy!Dan Dan was clearly 100% done. Half of the vid I was agreeing with him the other half I was
Really makes you wonder what he must have been like as a child, he definitely acted about 5 or 6 multiple times in the video. However, I did like the fact that he made fun of his overreaction to the fact that the game said his name.
Plus, they both looked very fond in this video quite often Smh Dan we see right through your cover of acting annoyed with Phil's antics when you are really 100% fond and phil trash #1
OT/ MAJOR throwback I was watching the old vegas live show and loled when dan mentioned not wanting Phil to show his messy bed while the one they were sitting on was literally perfect and supposed to be Phil's. He stated in TABINOF that Phil was incredibly messy.
Horton DEFINITELY hears two bitch ass liars
Plus, they both looked very fond in this video quite often Smh Dan we see right through your cover of acting annoyed with Phil's antics when you are really 100% fond and phil trash #1
OT/ MAJOR throwback I was watching the old vegas live show and loled when dan mentioned not wanting Phil to show his messy bed while the one they were sitting on was literally perfect and supposed to be Phil's. He stated in TABINOF that Phil was incredibly messy.
Horton DEFINITELY hears two bitch ass liars

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felucca wrote:Best part of the new video right here:
I accidentally got attention for my grumpy comment under the video - it's weird seeing so many people agreeing with negativity on a D&P video, it's usually such a positive crowd.
Loving the YASSSS compilation but love your YouTube comment even more. I agree with you so much (as always) that they should play content they enjoy, it would be better for them and for us.
I didn't really get the sonic.exe video. I need to rewatch as didn't wanna watch with headphones on as dans screaming hurts my head so watched it really quietly in bed. I didn't find it very interesting and apparently neither did they as they both seemed pretty uninterested. My favourite bit was at the end when they were discussing it and Phil looked so handsome in the whole thing. We just need those glasses to make a cheeky appearance.
I hope they don't do a spooky Dil again, I'm still salty from the last time they tried to palm off Sims as a frigging spooky week video because decorating their house with a cobweb is so scarrrrry. Please no Dil this year.
Also, yay for Phil tweeting out the dates for eurotatinof but venues man, we need to plan shizz. Why are they always so last minute, it's not good for organised people like me.
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Dan mentioning the mountains in the background looked like kid A's album cover
It kinda does but that's just stretching it, we get it Dan your a big radio-head fan we all are.

It kinda does but that's just stretching it, we get it Dan your a big radio-head fan we all are.


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sonic2.exe was honestly not the best imo but phil saved it and made it worth watching for me . i hope dan is more into outlast 2 video tomorrow and it is good & spooky.
can i just say how much i love when they have really in sync *cough* so married moments or inside jokes like at 5:52. there was no hesitation, right after dan read “like a rat” they both go and finish the quote. i think for me it just reaffirms how much time they really do spend around each other and i live for it.
can i just say how much i love when they have really in sync *cough* so married moments or inside jokes like at 5:52. there was no hesitation, right after dan read “like a rat” they both go and finish the quote. i think for me it just reaffirms how much time they really do spend around each other and i live for it.
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Re: Dan's lovely saltiness: I cannot help but think part of it is his frustration with newly formed Spooky Week traditions. Three years in, and they've done FNAF and Sonic.exe first and foremost. Because.... it's Spooky Week. So.. yeah.
You know that child (calm down, I'm many, many years older than him) lurks on social and potentially here. He's probably seen the comments "How long will it be before Dan ends up in Phil's lap? Will Dan abuse headphone users with his screeches? When will there be a chair turned over and a wild danisnotonfire on the floor? Can we lighten the gifs and find a glance, a smile, a lingering look?" So they started playing for fun in Spooky enjoyment, during this loveliest of holidays, back in 2014 and my! how quickly it has devolved into expecting them to play up certain performances for our enjoyment.
Dan even said it in the FNAF Sister Location.
Creepy computer: "Why do you want to do this?"
"Because people love to watch it on the internet."
He's talking to himself, y'all, about the video he's in. It's like their own version of AHS:Roanoke. Polk brother: "I thought you liked taking pictures of yourself."
Too bad, instead of Phil's reaction of grace and patience, we're focused on Dan's passive aggressive bent... he's throwing a temper tantrum without enjoying either the games or displaying even feigned interest, stewing on the sake of god@!m tradition, and probably playing scary games in his private time with Phil without the pressure to publicly imitate 2014 or 2015 reactions, events, or funny moments. And he misses the chance to play something he likes because we demand the same sitcom over and over.
Literally we're upset over the of , and we ain't even got to live in that house.
You know that child (calm down, I'm many, many years older than him) lurks on social and potentially here. He's probably seen the comments "How long will it be before Dan ends up in Phil's lap? Will Dan abuse headphone users with his screeches? When will there be a chair turned over and a wild danisnotonfire on the floor? Can we lighten the gifs and find a glance, a smile, a lingering look?" So they started playing for fun in Spooky enjoyment, during this loveliest of holidays, back in 2014 and my! how quickly it has devolved into expecting them to play up certain performances for our enjoyment.
Dan even said it in the FNAF Sister Location.
Creepy computer: "Why do you want to do this?"
"Because people love to watch it on the internet."
He's talking to himself, y'all, about the video he's in. It's like their own version of AHS:Roanoke. Polk brother: "I thought you liked taking pictures of yourself."
Too bad, instead of Phil's reaction of grace and patience, we're focused on Dan's passive aggressive bent... he's throwing a temper tantrum without enjoying either the games or displaying even feigned interest, stewing on the sake of god@!m tradition, and probably playing scary games in his private time with Phil without the pressure to publicly imitate 2014 or 2015 reactions, events, or funny moments. And he misses the chance to play something he likes because we demand the same sitcom over and over.
Literally we're upset over the of , and we ain't even got to live in that house.
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Hey, so I buckled down and finished this compilation earlier than I expected to - photos of Phil taken by Dan! :D
Dan doesn't take quite as many photos of Phil as Phil takes of Dan (or at least, they don't post as many for us to see), but he does take quite a few, and some of them are real gems. The cereal-stealing photos are sooo iconic, and I personally will always have a soft spot for the #philday photo and those two photos of Phil on the sofa looking at his phone taken from weird angles.
Notes & explanations (basically the same as the ones for the Dan compilation):
And now, may I present to you: 50 photos and 5 short videos that Dan has taken of Phil over the years!
Compilation: Photos Dan has taken of Phil :)
Dan doesn't take quite as many photos of Phil as Phil takes of Dan (or at least, they don't post as many for us to see), but he does take quite a few, and some of them are real gems. The cereal-stealing photos are sooo iconic, and I personally will always have a soft spot for the #philday photo and those two photos of Phil on the sofa looking at his phone taken from weird angles.
Notes & explanations (basically the same as the ones for the Dan compilation):
Compilation: Photos Dan has taken of Phil :)
busy being happy~
Up to now this Spooky Week is just a carbon copy of the previous two with FNAF and Sonic.exe There are so many spooky scary games out there, why keep revisiting new installments of the same ones? PUT SOME EFFORT INTO YOUR SHIT JFC.
- Dan's hair really looks bad... the haircut I mean not the wavyness that's cute. But also not doing it any favors.
- PHIL IS ACTUALLY CONTROLLING A GAME FOR ONCE WOW END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR.
- They're far too cheery to make this spooky, especially Dan with the singing.
- They're just casually talking about static, there's no immersion and they don't actually give a shit about this game.
- Dan's overacting ass should've fallen of his chair right there to make this video interesting.
- Phil doing charity and promoting Gaga's Perfect Illusion.
- Phil is at least kinda trying to pretend that he cares about this game, while Dan...
- We have to get our jump scares from Phil himself now because this game ain't delivering.
- 'If you're nine, this must be really scary' lmao Dan go in :')
- I just fucking choked at Phil bragging about his platform skills and fucking dying.
- 'What do you see? Leave us a comment.' I see you two not being immersed in the spooky.
- My best friend and I do the YAAAAS thing in that voice to each other constantly so I always love it when Deppy does it. #relatable
- 'Stop pressuring me!' Yes Phil, tell him.
- I hate that Dan can keep distracting Phil and he will only be shushed a few times in the nicest way possible, but when it's the other way around Dan turns into a screaming diva who'd kill Phil if he could get away with it. Hypocrite.
- Why did they play this exactly?
Listen while I enjoyed the sarcasm and snark towards the game and them not pretending to find it interesting, it simultaneously annoys the shit out of me because they don't have to do this. They can play any other spooky game they want, their audience would fucking welcome a change of pace, but they won't fucking do it. Whether it's because they're afraid of the audience not liking new things or because they can't be fucking bothered anymore I dunno. But stop complaining and suck it up then, no one is making you play this game
Anyway the game was boring and Sonix.exe really should've ended after the first one because at least that one was actually disturbing. The bantz were pretty on point though, at least a lot better than they were in FNAF and the previous Sims video. But again, annoyed at their lack of caring for Spooky Week and DAPG in general rn.
DAPG's wasted potential gets me angry sometimes. The hype for it before anyone really knew what 'Project X' was, the launch of the damn thing and it's few good months, the decline because of the book and tour and now...they seem to have so little interest in it. If they still actually gave a shit they'd put effort into finding new games to play, or revisit old school games from their childhood/teen years like they originally said they wanted to do. Not this tragic half assery. Hoping they'll regain a bit of spark in the new year, no surprise side projects anymore. Who am I kidding?
And oh shit Deppy's spell is wearing off. It's all downhill from here. (KIDDING. no but really people are tired and less engaged than usual, they need to start pulling people back asap.) Totally agree with your comment btw Maybe Dan will throw another hissy fit about all this negativity in his next liveshow now.
[offtopic]I wonder why the boys didn't attend Louise's DVD launch. Did they reach their social interaction limit for the week with Marzia's birthday and the Teen Awards?[/offtopic]
- Dan's hair really looks bad... the haircut I mean not the wavyness that's cute. But also not doing it any favors.
- PHIL IS ACTUALLY CONTROLLING A GAME FOR ONCE WOW END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR.
- They're far too cheery to make this spooky, especially Dan with the singing.
- They're just casually talking about static, there's no immersion and they don't actually give a shit about this game.
- Dan's overacting ass should've fallen of his chair right there to make this video interesting.
- Phil doing charity and promoting Gaga's Perfect Illusion.
- Phil is at least kinda trying to pretend that he cares about this game, while Dan...
- We have to get our jump scares from Phil himself now because this game ain't delivering.
- 'If you're nine, this must be really scary' lmao Dan go in :')
- I just fucking choked at Phil bragging about his platform skills and fucking dying.
- 'What do you see? Leave us a comment.' I see you two not being immersed in the spooky.
- My best friend and I do the YAAAAS thing in that voice to each other constantly so I always love it when Deppy does it. #relatable
- 'Stop pressuring me!' Yes Phil, tell him.
- I hate that Dan can keep distracting Phil and he will only be shushed a few times in the nicest way possible, but when it's the other way around Dan turns into a screaming diva who'd kill Phil if he could get away with it. Hypocrite.
- Why did they play this exactly?
Listen while I enjoyed the sarcasm and snark towards the game and them not pretending to find it interesting, it simultaneously annoys the shit out of me because they don't have to do this. They can play any other spooky game they want, their audience would fucking welcome a change of pace, but they won't fucking do it. Whether it's because they're afraid of the audience not liking new things or because they can't be fucking bothered anymore I dunno. But stop complaining and suck it up then, no one is making you play this game
Anyway the game was boring and Sonix.exe really should've ended after the first one because at least that one was actually disturbing. The bantz were pretty on point though, at least a lot better than they were in FNAF and the previous Sims video. But again, annoyed at their lack of caring for Spooky Week and DAPG in general rn.
See Dan being obnoxious about having to play Undertale on camera earlier this yearannetamiau wrote:I've come to the conclusion that Dan and Phil don't care about any of the games they've been playing for like a year (sims, undertale and crappy apps mainly). If they like a game, they don't record themselves playing it. Why do they have a gaming channel, then? Idk, but they are not even trying to pretend they care any more.
Honestly, same. It just makes sense to me.papierklemmen wrote:well, i always suspected they only got a gaming channel to officially establish the joint #danandphil brand on youtube before the book and the tour and for uploading spon videos.annetamiau wrote:Why do they have a gaming channel, then?
YAAAAS.felucca wrote:Best part of the new video right here:
I accidentally got attention for my grumpy comment under the video - it's weird seeing so many people agreeing with negativity on a D&P video, it's usually such a positive crowd.
And oh shit Deppy's spell is wearing off. It's all downhill from here. (KIDDING. no but really people are tired and less engaged than usual, they need to start pulling people back asap.) Totally agree with your comment btw Maybe Dan will throw another hissy fit about all this negativity in his next liveshow now.
[offtopic]I wonder why the boys didn't attend Louise's DVD launch. Did they reach their social interaction limit for the week with Marzia's birthday and the Teen Awards?[/offtopic]





















































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