lilMango wrote:
I don't really get what you mean by "we would see a lot more videos like this if no one knew." If no one knew for certain why would more people confirm or deny it? I agree with you that youtubers probably spread gossip just like we do, but I don't think they know for sure. I think they like to think they do, but probably don't really. They probably are in the same position we're in, gossiping about the v day video and old tweets and stuff, but realizing that straight up asking dan and phil or talking about it openly is a no-no. On the contrary from what you said, I think it'd be a lot more likely to see youtubers confirming phan if it was common knowledge. Youtube is a big chain. You can't trust someone to not tell someone to not tell someone who'll tell. Youtubers can be idiots too. And I find it hard to believe that if dan and phil were truly openly out like making out at parties type of out, there wouldn't be at least one person who would think it's acceptable to spill the beans, either for youtube fame, for malice, or watever other reason. So I think it's kind of a don't ask don't tell kind of thing. Like dan and phil just are. There's no definition.
If no youtubers knew, the only narrative they would have is the denial narrative. The "oh, those fans are so crazy" narrative. No casual youtuber would really care enough to look into stuff more (except for. like. Emma) but you have a point about not being able to trust
every youtuber. I just think they haven't kept stuff
completely hidden.[/quote]
No casual youtuber would care enough? What about Evan? He's a good example. Maybe he's an exception, but think about it this way. In my opinion, the youtuber world is kind of like a high school. There are friend groups, but everyone knows each other or at least knows of each other. There are popular kids and less popular kids. (Translation: smaller youtubers are still allowed at Playlist/Vidcon mixers) In high school, everyone is interested in everyone else's relationships. Where there is a group of people who all know each other, there is bound to be drama. Everyone in high school was interested in who the popular kids dated. When they broke up. When they got together. Why they got together. If they were going to get together. I find it hard to believe that no one in the youtube sphere, especially based on how cliquey it is, cares about other people's relationships. It's human nature.
You could of course argue that youtubers are not high school age and are therefore more mature, which is true, but I think a lot of people here who've been in college or a professional workplace or both can attest to the fact that drama manifests in most if not all groups of people. My waitressing jobs had people of all ages, from 18 to 50, and there was still drama and gossiping. College, which a lot of youtubers are at college age, is a breeding ground for drama. High school was just the easiest parallel to draw, but I honestly think that drama must exist in the youtube sphere.
Not to mention human nature. We are naturally curious. Just look at the phandom. There are millions of people who are extremely curious about dan and phil's relationship. And you think youtubers are immune to this curiosity? You think that just because they happen to have the same job as dan and phil that they don't give a fuck if dan and phil are together? Why? I think it's only the natural conclusion to come to that at least
some youtubers must care about if dan and phil are together.
Now to address your point that they only have the negative mentality. Just look at dan and phil. they're attached at the hip. they're exclusive. they're known to choose to spend time together at conventions rather than socialize sometimes. They look at each other lovingly. They know everything about each other. That's really interesting behavior for two people who are just close friends. You don't think that youtubers pick up on that just like we do? why would a youtuber assume they're not dating when we assume they are dating? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that dan and phil have a bit of an unconventional dynamic for best friends. But that's none of my business.
tl;dr I think youtubers gossip just like we do and wouldn't conclude they aren't dating.
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