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noodlebum wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:44 pm I saw it mentioned that Phil isn't doing his liveshow today, was that in a members post?

blahblahblah8 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:49 pm

noodlebum wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:44 pm I saw it mentioned that Phil isn't doing his liveshow today, was that in a members post?

In his insta stories! Idk how to post it here but he said he’s doing a zoom with his family tonight so there won’t be a liveshow until next Sunday

rizzo wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:24 pm On the topic of easter and easter baking... I'd like to bring back an age-old question that haunts me to this day. Where did they get the neater bunny biscuits and why not use their own creation??!?!!

Here we have the ones they decorated:

And YET! One jumpcut later.... we get THESE:

Who made them? Did they buy the neat ones directly from Sainsbury's? Did they host an easter party and have the likes of Bryony/Martyn/Cornelia/Ian make these? Were they made ahead of time - just the two of them - for more precision? They don't have sparkles in the icing... so I'm leaning towards store-bought, because why not just use the easier icing in the video? And if they're store-bought, did they go out of their way to buy a bag of bows just to pretend they were making this treat in its entirety???

So many questions. None of them answered. It aches, leaving something like this unknown.

liola wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:35 pm

rizzo wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:24 pm On the topic of easter and easter baking... I'd like to bring back an age-old question that haunts me to this day. Where did they get the neater bunny biscuits and why not use their own creation??!?!!

Here we have the ones they decorated:

And YET! One jumpcut later.... we get THESE:

Who made them? Did they buy the neat ones directly from Sainsbury's? Did they host an easter party and have the likes of Bryony/Martyn/Cornelia/Ian make these? Were they made ahead of time - just the two of them - for more precision? They don't have sparkles in the icing... so I'm leaning towards store-bought, because why not just use the easier icing in the video? And if they're store-bought, did they go out of their way to buy a bag of bows just to pretend they were making this treat in its entirety???

So many questions. None of them answered. It aches, leaving something like this unknown.

I always thought they made more than one. batch because in the oven they don't have the sticks but then they do so i just always thought they made way more but didn't care to show the decoration of all because..well, it's dan and phil

alittledizzy wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:13 pm
That said, it doesn't bother me either way. He's always been the kind of creator that's quiet while he's working on something and then more chatty with us when he's feeling in a better place about it. Phil does the same thing - Phil just perpetually has something to promote to us - videos and livestreams.

liola wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:01 pm I'm not one that thinks Dan actively wants to abandon the audience, cause I think that would be a stupid idea that he's not executing well if he really were to, so for me it would just mean th same thing: bad at communication, doesn't care about that much either, makes the audience feel like piggy banks etc etc.

(That said... the audience in social media is such a big group that you're unable to differentiate, so it's not exactly right, he could very well trying to make himself known as alive to reach a specific sub group that he wants to target with his promotion and all of us, well we are just.. collateral audience. That wouldn't surprise me. It would still mean he's bad at communication, but that is something that you can't circle around)

alittledizzy wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:13 pm
That said, it doesn't bother me either way. He's always been the kind of creator that's quiet while he's working on something and then more chatty with us when he's feeling in a better place about it. Phil does the same thing - Phil just perpetually has something to promote to us - videos and livestreams.

This isn't to defend Phil.over Dan or anything like that, but Phil engages with us all the time (and on different platforms) so when that happens cannot be said that is to promote something because social media isn't for that, it's to... keep social. It's not a comparison - with Dan it's just a pattern because in the past year and a half he doesn't interact UNLESS he has something to promote, and he only does it a few days prior and then gone again. It's really a completely different use.

It's like.. like If your friend never ever texts you just to ask you how you are what you're doing and then you notice that when he very seldom does, he asks a favor immediately after and then disappear vs the friend who just.. talks to you more frequently and also sometimes ask a favor. One feels genuine relationship and one.. doesn't

liola wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:15 pm I wasn't trying to say Dan is our friend, I was specifically making a metaphor on the friend who texts vs the friend who does it for opportunity, I thought that was clear.

And the problem with Dan here isn't in the way he replies or doesn't reply, it's the way he withdraws any type of communication - and let it be known, relatable tweets with no substance to it or liked posts is not what I mean with communication. I mean actually talking to the audience, not about personal things and not even about his project if it's not ready, but he could say something about what he's doing, reply to the questions of people or just making it feel like he wants to share something with the audience - even if he did a liveshow/livetweeting of commentary of ff7 would feel better (and kayy, I'm biased)

I would just respect it more if he said the things about his projects or for once said why he's disappeared instead of hiding it in the replies and just avoid talking and ignoring the questions that have been asked for a year. That will forever be the issue here.

And about the amount of people to texts... consider it a group text then, like I said it was a metaphor - a comparison with how Dan vs Phil engage since you said it was the same thing, not dan/phil vs a friend.

Amiaw wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:25 pm Something else that doesn’t sit right is that Phil does a thing - tells us about a zoom call with his family, posts a video, talks about his career- and immediately there are several posts about how people bet dan was there helping him along because some people have a hard time accepting a phil thing as a phil thing and not making it a vehicle for Dan. It has to be discouraging for him to have a liveshow or post a new video and see so many questions about dan. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t blacklist his name after this last video.