IDB

with the new video, this is off topic by now, but re: pewdiepie: i personally don't think dan should be praised for his comment, but what he said served for me to note the incident as neutral. as a viewer, i won't know anyway whether this conversation will take place or what he honestly thinks about it. what matters to me is what signal his actions are sending. if they hang out with felix, post a picture and joke about everyone's problematic dad, it signals to their audience that they condone his behaviour -- and if someone you perceive as socially aware, compassionate, etc, or look up to, thinks what felix does is excusable, you might be more inclined to excuse it yourself. seen that way, association in itself is harmful. dan signalling that he doesn't approve and that they're meeting up with marzia, pj, and sophie in the first place isn't Great, but it doesn't send this signal in my opinion. i'd be really disappointed though if they didn't at least stay in this lane.

and now i'm off to finally watch the video, carry on.

Now I really want to play truth bombs!! that looks like so much fun, man I wish they'd translate it so I could play with my friends who don't speak that much english

alittledizzy wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:36 pm If Dan really loved us, he'd set up a hidden camera and then record Phil playing when Phil doesn't think it's going up online so we get to see the real, uncensored Phil Lester humor.

This would be the best thing to ever happen tbh, reminds me of that time he won Cards Against Humanity when playing with the gleam team, and I was like noooooo every one of these assholes vlog, why didn't they vlog this game?! hahahah

missemma wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:57 pm To everyone asking questions about the game, @feenix has asked me to post the following on her behalf as she cannot get on IDB right now:

It comes with one score pad but you can probably just keep score on any scrap of paper honestly. There are approx 70 cards I think? But they're double sided so it has 140 questions maybe.
Also behind the spoiler is a photo of the text on the back of the polaroid

Thanks for this, I'm indebted to you!!

Still on the fence about whether I get it or not, I'm literally counting IRL friends I have that'd be willing to play and it's not looking promising lol

Also, (and maybe this is a problem for some of you guy too) my handwriting is really distinctive, it wouldn't be hard to guess which truthbombs I wrote- or at least not for the people I know well enough to play it with

I'd love to see deppy bring more guests on to the gaming channel to play this with though, and I do agree that they should release new question packs every once and awhile to keep the game fresh and interesting.

And some 'phanniversary' thoughts, for whoever cares:

whelpkeeper wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:43 pm Also, (and maybe this is a problem for some of you guy too) my handwriting is really distinctive, it wouldn't be hard to guess which truthbombs I wrote- or at least not for the people I know well enough to play it with

I'd love to see deppy bring more guests on to the gaming channel to play this with though, and I do agree that they should release new question packs every once and awhile to keep the game fresh and interesting.

I had this thought too, how the hell would you not know who wrote what if you're playing with close friends / family? Anyone I would play this game with would know who wrote what in an instant. Definitely ruins the scoring aspect of the game a bit.

I'm also curious how this game would translate to being played online? How the heckity heck would that work? (I mean I'd be down to play but... I'm confused just thinking about it.)

whelpkeeper wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:43 pm Still on the fence about whether I get it or not, I'm literally counting IRL friends I have that'd be willing to play and it's not looking promising lol

Also, (and maybe this is a problem for some of you guy too) my handwriting is really distinctive, it wouldn't be hard to guess which truthbombs I wrote- or at least not for the people I know well enough to play it with

Same to both of these things. I don't have (enough) IRL friends that might be willing to play this (I played Gloom with some friends recently and I got told I'm brutal, so ).

Plus my handwriting is both atrocious and incredibly distinctive, my answers would instantly be recognized. Not to mention the fact that I recognize my friends' handwriting I got a card a while back and even just seeing my own address I knew immediately which friend sent it to me

The game looks alright, though not necessarily something I could play with my friends here. But I'm happy for the boys that they got to make their own game, it does suit them and I'm curious what other weird questions Phil's strange brain came up with.

Ewok wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:23 pm
I had this thought too, how the hell would you not know who wrote what if you're playing with close friends / family? Anyone I would play this game with would know who wrote what in an instant. Definitely ruins the scoring aspect of the game a bit.

I'm also curious how this game would translate to being played online? How the heckity heck would that work? (I mean I'd be down to play but... I'm confused just thinking about it.)

I don't think you'll ever see the card with your name on it. Someone else will read it out, and it will never get passed to you, so you just have to pick your favorite/guess who wrote it based on the answers that the person to your left reads out loud.

i'm pretty sure the handwriting thing wouldn't be a problem because you would set out the amount of cards so that your paper never gets back to you(like in the video, there was four of them so they set out three cards/three answers), so since you won't see the paper with the answers about you, you'll have no clue about any handwriting
(i think)
edit: onceinaugust got to it first lol

The video was hilarious, especially the 'serotonin deficiency' one for Dan, the constant drinking references for Hazel, and the gun references for Tom. The way Phil reacted after Dan explained serotonin was so damn natural. Like the way he put his hand to his face was so.... something. It was an action that felt new to me, like I'd never seen it before. I think this game would be really fun to play with my giant family. We play Cards Against Humanity as a family so I imagine we can get through this. Except it might get too personal...

Random: Safiya Nygaard mentioned Phil in her most recent video. Just in a "1987, the birth year of this person, this person, and Phil Lester." Are we getting closer to a collab?? Please!

Ewok wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:23 pm I'm also curious how this game would translate to being played online? How the heckity heck would that work? (I mean I'd be down to play but... I'm confused just thinking about it.)

I can't imagine it working online other than an official program made for the game. Otherwise there's no way really to pass along pieces of paper so that someone can write on it, and without the person who you're writing about seeing the paper.

Actual program for the game though, I can imagine some sort of thing going on where you have to type in answers to questions and it passes on and is displayed on the next person's screen or something. too bad i'm so crap at programming or i'd try to make it.

If I tried to make a virtual game for it, idk about copyright issues tbh. I probably could if I tried, but I'm honestly so lazy and also concerned about copyright issues because unless I set it up so that you have to pay to play and the money goes to Big Potato and/or Deppy, I'll probably run into some problems.

We could probably have an IDB Skype session over it, though, and a moderator (who's not playing) could pass along what everyone's writen for what.

All this talk about a virtual version of the game and the mentions of Cards Against Humanity really just makes me think IDB playing CAH against each other would be hilarious.

Phil has gone full spon with the board game twitter header! Wonder if Dan will follow or if he'll be unable to bring himself to be so shameless with the shilling?

Phil also left a comment on the youtube video when he realized Dan, Tom, and Hazel are all left handed. Which... somehow I didn't notice at all?

im a bit late as usual on tuesdays and thursdays (blame community college for that), but i loved the truth bombs collab! despite me not having hardly any irl friends, i think i'm gonna buy truth bombs anyways for christmas (online so i can get rad stickers and the weird polaroid), and force my family members to play it :twisted:

i liked the collab though, they all seemed to have good chemistry. my only complaint is that hazel seemed more like an awkward..fourth wheel ironically. i dunno.

I hate living in Australia and working all day, I'm always so late to the party smh. But regardless, I really enjoyed the video and I think the game seems quite fun. I'm not a huge fan of Hazel at all, but I actually thought she came across just as likeable as Tom in this video (both she and Louise are defying my expectations this week!). Dan and Phil both looked lovely and their outfits complemented each other nicely, plus their close positioning gave off such a cosy vibe. I died at the serotonin joke and Phil's reaction to it omg, and overall I think it seems like one of the best products they've released. Like seemingly everyone else here, if I had a friendship group I'd totally buy it but I don't lol (I do have friends, but none of them know each other).

There is this tiny part of me that is terrified they'll film a video playing it with PJ, Sophie, Felix and Marzia when they visit them this weekend, as it would be a great opportunity for a collab and Felix would undoubtedly bring in the views. I'm telling myself that they wouldn't as it'll be Marzia's birthday because oh god I really do think I'd have to unsubscribe on principle if they ever have Felix on their channel again.

re: October 19th - I definitely agree with dizzy, I can't for the life of me see anything wrong with people celebrating the anniversary of the day Dan and Phil met. It seems like such a wholesome (as Dan himself said in his most recent liveshow) thing to be celebrating, and from what I've seen most people are reflecting on the fact that October 19th essentially started everything in the phandom - not only did it signal the beginning of Dan and Phil's relationship (in the general sense of that word), but it also made possible everything that lead from their meeting, which means a lot to so many people.

Also, I feel like it just goes without saying that it's obviously bad etiquette to tag Dan and Phil in explicit content. Like, is it even worth mentioning or making a fuss over? People who do that are in the wrong, and anyone who is a decent, mature person will know that. By tarring all people celebrating October 19th with the same brush we're just undermining what is actually a really nice event. Maybe it's just because I've been here for five years now but tbh I think I am just at the point where I feel like 'don't be an idiot, don't tag Dan and Phil in things they wouldn't want to see, be respectful and remember Dan and Phil are real human beings' just goes without saying. I'm bored by it lmao

Loved the video and the game! I like the colors and design of it. I might be crazy but I kept wondering if Dan was wearing pink nailpolish in the gaming video... I'm probably wrong? But I can't figure it out.

I'm late to the party as usual, but the video was so good! It was genuinely entertaining and funny and I've already rewatched it three times (it's rare that I rewatch their videos, especially the gaming ones, so that's a sign that I really enjoyed it).
The game seems fun, I won't personally buy it, mostly bc it's in English and I can't think of anyone who would be willing to play a game in a different language that they're not very well versed in. Also it seems like the kind of game that you have to play with the right people for it to be a good fun experience. As Tom said, the worse the friends you play with are, the better. But I'm not someone who likes to share a lot and I don't always react well to other people judging me, so idk.
In that sense, their choice of Tomska and Hazel makes sense and is very smart. They picked two people who, no matter what you think about them, are funny and quick-witted and not easily offended. The game could have easily been so much worse, had they picked the wrong people.

A few random thoughts (sorry, it's probably gonna be long):

- This video was so.. aestethically pleasing for some reason? Idk what it was, but something about the light and the colors of the game and their outfits and hair just worked really well. And they all looked very good.

- Hopefully they will play it again, maybe on someone else's channel? If they played with other people with bigger channels, the sponsor would reach a wider and maybe even different target audience. Idk who they could play it with that has a bigger channel though? Maybe Caspar and Joe? We at least know they're friends/friendly with them, especially since the creator summit, and they already collabed in the past. I can see this type of video benefiting both parts.

- For being a collab with two other people, this video felt (at least to me) so focused on Dan and Phil. Not only bc it was their channel and their game and they were "hosting", but it felt like they were the catalyst of the whole room. Someone mentioned Hazel fourth-wheeling, but I think in a way both Hazel and Tom were fourth-wheeling. Don't get me wrong, they were great additions to the video and it wouldn't have been the same without them, but the shared charisma and chemistry between deppy felt especially off the charts. They were glowing and you could tell how truly proud they were of their game. It made me really happy.

- Kinda long rambling note, feel free to skip: I love how, even when squeezed between two other people, they still manage to press even more tightly against each other. I swear there was the sligthest bit of space between Dan and Hazel and even Phil and Tom, but deppy were literally glued to each other. And shippy feelings aside, that says so much about the level of comfort and familiarity between them. I definitely shouldn't be surprised and I'm not, seeing how close they've been for the better part of a decade, but as someone who is so always uncomfortable in social situations where you're pressed against other people (not only strangers, but even friends sometimes), I can't help but feel that tiny tingle of envy for what they have with each other, for how natural and spontaneous physical touch comes to them, for how they don't even flinch or feel even a hint of discomfort when they're pressed so tight against each other.
I imagine that Dan and maybe even Phil who describe themselves as socially awkward would have a similar problem with innocent accidental touching in social situations, and maybe that's why they were ever so slightly detached from Hazel and Tom and leaning against each other. Their general attitude and body language was that of two people who naturally gravitate towards each other without even thinking about it. And I'm no expert in body language, but I remember that one came to my school for a lesson a few years ago and the first thing she explained to us was that the way we orient our body even slightly indicates what we subconsciously deem to be the thing that's most worthy of attention in the room. In a room with multiple people, even if we have our head turned towards who's speaking at the moment (bc it's instinct and good etiquette to look at the person who's speaking), our body can still be oriented towards another person and that indicates that subconsciously a part of our attention still lingers there, and that's also where we put our trust.
I mean, obviosuly none of this is new information, so sorry if I rambled, but I felt like sharing, bc I wish I had someone that I can subconsciously lean against in social situations (literally and metaphorically) to soothe my social anxiety.

- Last thing, I swear: what was that joke about, of Phil finding Tom offensive? Am I missing something? Why would Phil think Tom makes offensive jokes? Or was it just a joke with no deeper meaning? I'm lost.

rainydays wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:29 am - Last thing, I swear: what was that joke about, of Phil finding Tom offensive? Am I missing something? Why would Phil think Tom makes offensive jokes? Or was it just a joke with no deeper meaning? I'm lost.

I think Tom just meant that out of all of them, Phil would be most likely to be offended by Tom's humour based on his branding. Hazel's, Dan's and Tom's channels are arguably more 'mature' than Phil's, in that they deal with more adult themes, make darker jokes, and are more likely to involve alcohol/swearing etc. Phil's channel is more family-friendly, essentially. While obviously actual Phil Lester himself is far more complex than his youtube persona, and probably wouldn't be any more offended than Dan or Hazel, I think Tom was just making the point that Phil's youtube content doesn't really mesh with Tom's youtube content, if that makes sense? Not that Phil was actually offended, just that based on what Phil deems acceptable to include on his own channel he would be most likely out of all of them to be offended. I hope I explained that okay, I feel like that made no sense at all, sorry!

captainspacecoat wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:10 am

rainydays wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:29 am - Last thing, I swear: what was that joke about, of Phil finding Tom offensive? Am I missing something? Why would Phil think Tom makes offensive jokes? Or was it just a joke with no deeper meaning? I'm lost.

I think Tom just meant that out of all of them, Phil would be most likely to be offended by Tom's humour based on his branding. Hazel's, Dan's and Tom's channels are arguably more 'mature' than Phil's, in that they deal with more adult themes, make darker jokes, and are more likely to involve alcohol/swearing etc. Phil's channel is more family-friendly, essentially. While obviously actual Phil Lester himself is far more complex than his youtube persona, and probably wouldn't be any more offended than Dan or Hazel, I think Tom was just making the point that Phil's youtube content doesn't really mesh with Tom's youtube content, if that makes sense? Not that Phil was actually offended, just that based on what Phil deems acceptable to include on his own channel he would be most likely out of all of them to be offended. I hope I explained that okay, I feel like that made no sense at all, sorry!

This is probably it but I also thought maybe it's just that Phil knows Tom the least out of the 3 of them? Hazel and Tom seem to be quite good friends, and Dan has worked on projects with Tom and without Phil (I believe?). So maybe Phil would be the most likely to be surprised by Tom's humour because he hasn't experienced it as much, and therefore also the most likely to be offended? Or that Tom didn't know if Phil would be offended or not because he didn't know him very well.

I don't know I'm just rambling! I liked the video, I thought they could have gone further with the answers, to be honest - I'd kill to watch them play it without cameras on. The game seems fun, I think if I bought it I would want everyone to write an answer to the same question about the same person and then that person chooses their favourite answer (I suppose a bit more like Cards Against Humanity). But I always like to mess with the rules to games!

Agree with everyone else who has said they don't have anyone who'd want to play it with them. I might be able to convince my brothers when we're all together but that's about twice a year so not really worth paying for it for that I guess! Still very proud of/pleased for them. They've definitely created a game people can pick up and buy and enjoy even if they don't know who D&P is which is the ultimate aim for all YouTuber projects I suppose!

Crossing my fingers that we will see more collab content with other YouTubers playing Truth Bombs!
I want Tyler Oakley to collab with them again; I really like all the past videos they've each done together.
I can also see them doing this with Anthony and Ian.

I'm glad I avoided all the spoilers and scrolled past detailed leaked photos and I immediately thought of how it's a similar concept to CAH, which is one of my favorite (drinking)games to play with close friends.

I was thinking that if you do end up running out of answer sheets, it wouldn't be much of an hassle to DIY some and color code it with markers and as for the score sheet, you can give the question card to the player who's answer was chosen (like you do in CAH) and the the person who also guessed correctly can keep their answer sheet at the end of each round. Whoever has collected the most of both question card+answer sheets is the winner.
But tbh, like CAH, does the person who chooses which answer they like best also have to get a point? I feel like if it just goes to the person with the funniest answer, it'll encourage longer game play / avoid having tie breakers.
Am I making any sense?

blackdenim wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:06 am

captainspacecoat wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:10 am

rainydays wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:29 am - Last thing, I swear: what was that joke about, of Phil finding Tom offensive? Am I missing something? Why would Phil think Tom makes offensive jokes? Or was it just a joke with no deeper meaning? I'm lost.

I think Tom just meant that out of all of them, Phil would be most likely to be offended by Tom's humour based on his branding. Hazel's, Dan's and Tom's channels are arguably more 'mature' than Phil's, in that they deal with more adult themes, make darker jokes, and are more likely to involve alcohol/swearing etc. Phil's channel is more family-friendly, essentially. While obviously actual Phil Lester himself is far more complex than his youtube persona, and probably wouldn't be any more offended than Dan or Hazel, I think Tom was just making the point that Phil's youtube content doesn't really mesh with Tom's youtube content, if that makes sense? Not that Phil was actually offended, just that based on what Phil deems acceptable to include on his own channel he would be most likely out of all of them to be offended. I hope I explained that okay, I feel like that made no sense at all, sorry!

This is probably it but I also thought maybe it's just that Phil knows Tom the least out of the 3 of them? Hazel and Tom seem to be quite good friends, and Dan has worked on projects with Tom and without Phil (I believe?). So maybe Phil would be the most likely to be surprised by Tom's humour because he hasn't experienced it as much, and therefore also the most likely to be offended? Or that Tom didn't know if Phil would be offended or not because he didn't know him very well.

I don't think it's like that at all, the 3 of them (d&p and Tom) are under the same management who hosts annual parties where they all attend and they've hung out before at youtube related things, Tom is as much of a yt dinosaur as Phil is.
(you can see Tom and Phil setting up to play videogames in Dan's liveshow background) And they invited him to guest host on the internet takeover radioshow And i think there's only one Tomska sketch which has Dan and not Phil, the rest has them both.

Speaking of Tom...

alittledizzy wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:19 am Phil has gone full spon with the board game twitter header! Wonder if Dan will follow or if he'll be unable to bring himself to be so shameless with the shilling?

Phil also left a comment on the youtube video when he realized Dan, Tom, and Hazel are all left handed. Which... somehow I didn't notice at all?

Aha, I had noticed this instantly, for some reason .

I also noticed that they were sat so the lefty elbowing Phil was Dan. I guess that was inevitable because they needed to be in the middle, in Dan-and-Phil order. But still, I'm sure they're as used to elbowing each other when writing (or eating, etc.) as they are to any other closeness , and in larger group settings Dan would much rather elbow Phil than some random righty.

A little late, but I really enjoyed the video and game idea! I thought it was interesting how they emphasized it was initially Phil’s idea, and how Phil hates awkward situations.

I’m hoping this becomes what Phil wanted the 7 second challenge to be. Where it’s “their thing” to do for collabs, I could definitely see them playing it with other ytbers (or martyn and Cornelia?)

Also was I the only one who thought this is probably the closest we’ll get to seeing them play CAH? I can’t tell if that makes me happy or not...

I haven't had time to even watch the videos yet, but lads, this drawing off the website is so cute:

Okay, I finally watched the video! Here are my thoughts:
I loved this video so much, I laughed a lot, it was very enjoyable. I see why they wanted Tom and Hazel to do it, as they both have a dark sense of humour and aren't afraid to offend people, or joke around on camera. However, I don't think this video has as great "re-watch" potential as other videos of theirs, it lacks the subtleties and nuances that makes re-watching gaming videos enjoyable. This was a little static and bland at times due to it being a collab, and other people in the room. They don't bounce well off of Phil and Dan's energy. They are just there without adding to the atmosphere, if you know what I mean.