Dan & Phil Part 38: Everlasting as the Sun

[lurker]

phil being better at a game than dan fills me with a weird satisfaction. however, i think the three-part series of quick draw and google feud nicely ties back to someone here (i don't remember who it was, sorry!) mentioning they'd like to see a "dan and phil vs." rather than "dan vs. phil" -- their strengths lie in really different places and it's naturally difficult to find games where both of them can put their own strengths to use and compete at eye-level. (phil's bad at quick draw for the exact same reason why he's good at google feud.) i'd love to seem them play more games where dan can keep the controller and do the walking and fighting if he pleases (phil seems to be fine with it), but where there is a storyline/mysteries/riddles/decisions for them to work together to sort out. to see them team up against someone else would just be the beautiful continuation of that which we might never get to see, but i want to believe that one day i'll see that "water -- english channel!" psychic connection in a game of charades.

i liked the new video, still! the ending gave me beautiful flashbacks to the easter baking although i don't understand why this would be phil's go-to reaction to someone trying to feed him.

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[misakichan274]

Just wanted to express some incoherent feels about today's video. I loved Phil throughout, he looked incredible, was hilariously better at the game and as always an amazing complement to Dan's adorable screamy outbursts. Their domestic bants, the familiarity and ease with each other hurts my heart every time Although, its sad that they had to explain that Dan wasn't actually bullying Phil

I loved and laughed aloud at how self aware they seemed throughout at their #spon, phanservice etc. I thought it was healthy comedy and not quite mocking/aimed at the shippers. Reminded me of how similar it was to Dan feeding Phil in their ls two months ago and they acted in almost exactly similar ways. It felt like acknowledging/accepting the audience in a giving-you-what-you-want without fully letting-you-in manner. Or maybe Dan is exploring how far they can push the PDA apart from not inserting himself next to Phil's cheek constantly (jk ignore this vomit, I'm tired and trash )


Overall, love the video, feeling extremely spoiled and way too optimistic for this year to come

[oribanana]

Has anyone been paying attention to the Youtube Glitch? Seems like a lot of Youtubers are losing subscribers. Felix is losing hundreds of subscribers every 2 seconds, yikes. But it seems it's only affected Dan and not Phil/gaming channel. Dan had like 6,268,894 and now he's down to 6,268,025

[Artdefines06]

Has anyone been paying attention to the Youtube Glitch? Seems like a lot of Youtubers are losing subscribers. Felix is losing hundreds of subscribers every 2 seconds, yikes. But it seems it's only affected Dan and not Phil/gaming channel. Dan had like 6,268,894 and now he's down to 6,268,025

Is losing 800 some subs unusual? I unsubscribe to people all the time.

*edit Youtube is on it - seem they were overcounting unsubs https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube

[alittledizzy]

i liked the new video, still! the ending gave me beautiful flashbacks to the easter baking although i don't understand why this would be phil's go-to reaction to someone trying to feed him.

Phil seems to react as though he's expecting Dan to do something other than just feed him - which makes me wonder if there are unused takes from videos or just actual moments from real life where Dan trolls him like that, leans in close under the guise of feeding and then does something else. (Poke, tickle, kiss idk, insert whatever your phan-belief interaction level would consider realistic.)

[papierklemmen]

i liked the new video, still! the ending gave me beautiful flashbacks to the easter baking although i don't understand why this would be phil's go-to reaction to someone trying to feed him.

Phil seems to react as though he's expecting Dan to do something other than just feed him - which makes me wonder if there are unused takes from videos or just actual moments from real life where Dan trolls him like that, leans in close under the guise of feeding and then does something else. (Poke, tickle, kiss idk, insert whatever your phan-belief interaction level would consider realistic.)

in the ls from november when dan said "close your eyes" phil replied with "i don't wanna close my eyes! you're gonna put something else..!". literally don't wanna know(c)
1:17


but yeah, he's always so extra about dan feeding him. esp in the ls, he was so nervous damn.

[pearshaped34]

Has anyone been paying attention to the Youtube Glitch? Seems like a lot of Youtubers are losing subscribers. Felix is losing hundreds of subscribers every 2 seconds, yikes. But it seems it's only affected Dan and not Phil/gaming channel. Dan had like 6,268,894 and now he's down to 6,268,025

From what I've read if someone clicks unsub it's taking two off the accounts subscriber count meaning trolls are having a field day clicking sub and unsub to the same account for hours to watch the numbers go down.
However unless I'm understanding wrong I don't think it's anything to worry about because it doesn't sound like people who didn't click to be unsubbed are actually being unsubscribed so once they fix the glitch in theory all accounts should go back to wherever they were before.

[gnostic]

I didn't exactly participate in the mean Dan discussion but I did agree with it for some extent. The point is, I KNOW Dan is joking and / or exaggerating for the sake of video and Phil is completely fine with it and also a bloody adult who can shut Dan up if he gets uncomfortable

It's just unpleasant to me as a viewer to watch some particularly excessive examples of Dan being overly mean, unfair, smug or aggressive in context of friendly bantz.

[sweetmm]

The only thing I will remember from this video is that both confirmed Phil's column is thick Blame it on selected memory

[Catallena]

I've watched the video back about five times now since upload, it's so good and funny. Their best in a while.

These domestic cute assholes, I hate them

Commentary:

- 'Obnoxious showboating show off asses that feel the need to shove themselves in everyone's faces' is just my description for 99% of YouTubers..
- Dan has a lowkey breakdown over macaroons.
- BANTZ *sassy hand movement*
- 'Do you wanna explain that?' Phil says while writing on his notepad. Really channeling his inner stern teacher there..
- YAAAS DAN DRAG PHIL FOR HIS MERCH PUSHING SELL OUT WAYS.
- Two minutes into the video and we've had 5 domestic arguments and 0 gameplay.
- 'Someone is gonna get a sweet macaroon in his mouth tonight' That wasn't about the fucking biscuit, come at me.
- Dan chewing on the laces of his hoodie when frustrated is kinda cute.
- 'Think about the common folk of the world' This blatant elitism smh show a little respect to the plebs.
- Dan has a highkey breakdown over the stupidity of people.
- In what world does Dan live that he think Bublé is even now more relevant than Jackson??
- We've reached the point of the video where Dan is done with the game.
- 'Chill out Dan' <-- See I want more of that. I know it's all a joke like they're now explaining I just need Phil to dish it out just as much as he takes it like we see in this video. That only seems to happen when Phil isn't massively sucking at a game tho.
- penis penis penis penis penis
- Male Model!AU Phanfic. I've probably read it..
- 'Kidnapping your senpai' Yes Dan, we know how you got him to be yours..
- 'What is anyone using duct tape for that it is not meant for?' Either Phil's innocent persona isn't a persona after all or Phil thinks all the fucked up shit people do with duct tape are normal purposes for the stuff.
- 'I'm gonna choke myself. Completely non kink related, I just want death.' Me too bud
- Dan corrupting Phil into typing 'bondage' as an answer.
- 'I don't like screaming that often'

- Dan really wants to get that trending page.
- Thicc.
- The entire feeding part.. fuck me sideways and leave me to die.

[captainspacecoat]

Ohhh I loved that video! I think it was my favourite that they've uploaded this year, the editing was really snappy and their bants were great and god they're adorable

I loved that Phil was more assertive than usual, I felt he really carried the video. Also Dan had definitely eaten some of that green powder Martyn gave Phil haha

Other topics that we've moved on from but I missed out on due to being Australian and sleeping:

- Make A Wish: how lovely!!! I hope Zoe had the best day ever, I'm so glad she got her wish and I wish her the absolute best

- Weight talk: I'm so uncomfortable by all the talk of Dan needing to make a dietary change or whatever. He's not fat by any means but even if he was who gives a shit?? It's not anyone's place to criticise his weight, and as someone who's incredibly insecure about my weight it's so disheartening to read.

[alittledizzy]

I didn't exactly participate in the mean Dan discussion but I did agree with it for some extent. The point is, I KNOW Dan is joking and / or exaggerating for the sake of video and Phil is completely fine with it and also a bloody adult who can shut Dan up if he gets uncomfortable

It's just unpleasant to me as a viewer to watch some particularly excessive examples of Dan being overly mean, unfair, smug or aggressive in context of friendly bantz.

I feel like that's actually the point a lot of people were trying to make, and the whole debate ends up being a miscommunication where someone says "I don't enjoy Dan's sense of humor being so harsh" and all other people hear "I think Dan being mean hurts Phil."

Of course, I'm sure there are people who thought Dan was being mean to Phil and it hurt Phil, and those are the people Dan was addressing. But on here I felt like I saw more people just commenting on not always liking Dan's humor. Phil is obviously not bothered by the ~bantz but I definitely still feel like it's the right of the people watching as viewers to not like or not like that humor, no matter what Phil thinks of it. (Just like some people don't like Dan screaming, or Phil feigning ignorance about innuendo.)

[dontpanic]

MJ’s Timestamps

:13—Phil’s sass at the beginning of the video gives me hope for the world
:34—Phil saying “our house”
:54—Phil shushing Dan with his finger…I’m not even a minute into this video and I already know I’m about to renew my Phil Trash Membership Card
1:22—the Deathnote book reminds me of when they cosplayed in the tumblr tag video, aka the time they cosplayed before making phil’s cosplay "for the first time" video
1:44—Dan sassing phil about #spon-ing
2:00—Phil: “could we just play the game.” His laugh here means everything to me…he may not win at grammar but he’S STILL WINNING THIS GAME
2:30—Phil really does have pregnancy on his mind, doesn’t he?
2:33—Dan: “is that much to be proud of?” COME ON PHIL, dan f-s up as many sentences as you, where’s your tease at?
3:10—One more example of Phil’s complicated relationship with Death
3:16—Phil: “someone’s going to get a sweet macaroon in his mouth tonight.” Okay but did this sound dirty to anyone else?
5:26—Phil baby mention #2
6:15—thank you, now maybe people will quit it about the whole “Dan bullies Phil” thing?
6:34—Dan googles “how to raise phil’s penis” apparently
7:19—while phil seems fixated on babies, as of his last video dan has renewed his fixation with cannibals
7:47—there is absolutely no way “can I be a model at 5’4” has been googled THAT MUCH
8:22—I want to know why they laughed about the duct tape question
8:32—Dan: “kidnapping your sempi.” Dan’s throwback to the phan origin story video
9:01—why is dan’s tongue blue?… MJ asking the real questions
10:30—Synchronized “Thicc.” The merging of these two lifeforms is almost complete
10:44—what is the tragic “dan feeding phil” backstory? I need to know


Dan’s f-ing hair in this video sign me up now that it’s grown out a tad it just looks so adorable.
I’m not exactly a fan of Dan vs. Phils so this video made me happy, it had the cute trash-talky vibe without the…seriousness(? Idk the word I’m going for). the reason my fave Gamingmas video is gangbeasts
This was such a phil episode he was wonderful but I'm suspicious why are they making so many videos suddenly what is this productivity I CANT KEEP UP

MJ's GoogleFeud #2 rating:

[pilotlight]

I don't have anything to add other than that I loved everything about the video, and also everyone's great timestamps and commentaries.

And also also that I want a macaroon because it looked delicious.

[pastelspectre]

just gonna pop in here and say that i loved the new dapg video! the feeding part holy moly like... i legit thought they were gonna kiss almost? too good to be true tho for my phan shipping self

i loved all the domestic bants tho and that phil was being somewhat assertive to dan c:

[Amiaw]

I loved the new video and I love Phil - he is giving so much sass lately and I'm living for it.

Just look at his reply when someone asked how he felt about Dan using the moose:

Also we have a lot of people that are good at analyzing things- when they both said the column was thicc they shared a "what did I just say" look and then Phil downplayed it by saying they both said thicc at the same time with no more showboating from Dan. Why did they react that way when they were literally teasing with the macaroon feeding and other cheeky comments

Also: Phil looked flustered and then intrigued when Dan brought up bondage

[dannonfill]

Also: Phil looked flustered and then intrigued when Dan brought up bondage

^^^ I'd like to know what Phil struggled to say there at 8:54. Sounded like a "Well you" gone wrong, to me. As in "Well, you would suggest bondage."
goddamnit boys.

[apathy]

Don't have much to contribute, but I swear the "there were 8 and I only had ONE" conversation is completely plagiarized from my parents. My mom has repeated the same complaint against my dad so many times I can't count. Basically that scene is the definition of marriage in my mind. (He's never gonna change, Dan, get used to buying extras of things you want to keep for later and hiding them.)

[starlight-still]

I really enjoyed today’s DAPG! I have a bunch of here and there thoughts about it.

Their PSA in the middle had me giggling, but it is also kind of sweet that Dan especially seems to want to make sure the phans (particularly younger ones, I’m guessing) understand what’s going on between the two of them and aren’t upset by it. Something similar came up in his last DINOF too, with the “I hope you’re not sad” comment. He really does seem to have a soft spot for his fellow sensitive folks and it’s nice to see him go out of his way even if some might see what he’s doing as excessive or unnecessary.

That being said…I have some thoughts about the “painful” Google searches that I’m putting under a trigger warning (death/suicide).

Being the curious cat that I am, I thought about why some of those searches might have come up as the top ones. “How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend,” for example, is a light novel/anime. For the painful ones, I couldn’t help but wonder if some of those searches are not because people genuinely think it might not be hurtful in those cases but because, in a moment of desperation, they’re seeking some kind of connection, some testimony that will either deter them or give them the courage that comes will full knowledge. Now, we have no way of knowing if this is, in fact, the case but I’ll be honest that knowing that it could, in fact, be I was just a tiny bit put off by Dan saying those people must be idiots, etc.

Now back to the lighter side of things….

Dan’s wavy hair report. He’s keeping it going! I know in the past he’s worn it that way for a while only to start saying it looks terrible and press it again, but those curls are still going strong. It’s almost like he’s grown into it now and it suits him very, very nicely.

Phil’s pale pale skin was hurting my eyes a bit again… Dan’s too, tbh. Good thing spring will spring soon, those boys need some vitamin D.

I feel odd saying this but are Phil’s eyes extra-pretty to anyone else lately? Maybe it’s aging, maybe it comes with the territory of him being more relaxed and doing less of the unblinking staring thing (which I adored too, as you know) but they almost sparkle nowadays. Maybe he’s just really enjoying himself and it shows

Re: Deps and bondage, all I have to say is: Actual footage of them at the pub right now (Dan is the first one, Phil is the second):

Curious cats, maybe. join the club

The last minute and fifteen seconds was my absolute favorite thing they’ve done together so far this year. The playfulness of it, the way they just went for the whole feeding thing (yet it didn’t feel as “is this what you f*cking wanted?” as some of the ones they’ve done in the past), they both just seemed so comfortable and natural and that makes me smile.

I do hope we see Philly tomorrow though I may or may not be wistfully soaking in a hot tub somewhere when he does it and have to catch up later

[silverwinter]

I didn't exactly participate in the mean Dan discussion but I did agree with it for some extent. The point is, I KNOW Dan is joking and / or exaggerating for the sake of video and Phil is completely fine with it and also a bloody adult who can shut Dan up if he gets uncomfortable

It's just unpleasant to me as a viewer to watch some particularly excessive examples of Dan being overly mean, unfair, smug or aggressive in context of friendly bantz.

I feel like that's actually the point a lot of people were trying to make, and the whole debate ends up being a miscommunication where someone says "I don't enjoy Dan's sense of humor being so harsh" and all other people hear "I think Dan being mean hurts Phil."

Of course, I'm sure there are people who thought Dan was being mean to Phil and it hurt Phil, and those are the people Dan was addressing. But on here I felt like I saw more people just commenting on not always liking Dan's humor. Phil is obviously not bothered by the ~bantz but I definitely still feel like it's the right of the people watching as viewers to not like or not like that humor, no matter what Phil thinks of it. (Just like some people don't like Dan screaming, or Phil feigning ignorance about innuendo.)

yeah i agree with this. i thought the quick draw video was funny and i did enjoy it, but at the same time, it made me uncomfortable hearing dan be so critical. which, before someone says something, i know he was joking and i don't think phil was offended, but i'm just saying that, as a viewer, it did upset me hearing that type of thing. (and also i don't think dan normally is like this, i only really noticed it in the quick draw video for recent gaming videos).

and obv dan shouldn't change his speech or tone of voice bc some people who watch his videos don't like it. the reason i'm even bringing this up is bc i think alittledizzy's point is valid that some people, especially outside of the tumblr phil lester defense squad types, could just feel uncomfortable with hearing harsh criticism from a youtuber they like - it's not necessarily about "dan being mean to phil" (which is ridiculous imo, dan could never )

[Viofish]

I just did the dan and phil Christmas adventure on phils channel, and it was the most amazing thing???? cant believe I didnt do it sooner

also

very good present

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotatio ... Yi4byslxAA

[basictrashfan]

Dan and Phil coming back to Australia so soon for the Amplify thing made me wonder how much they would be getting paid to do this and the ticket prices just made me wonder more how much they are paying to get all of these people.

A general admission ticket that only lets you into the venue, so no perks is $65 for early release, $75 for second release. Then a meet and greet for an unknown amount of time is an extra $189 on top of the GA tickets. That's only for one person, so if you wanted to meet both Dan and Phil and Lindsey Stirling for example, you would have to pay $65 for your general admission, $189 for Lindsey and then another $189 for Dan and Phil. But say you wanted to meet all the talent, both headlining and not headlining it's $450, still not including the admission price. (and there's only 50 of these available)

For an event like this is this normal? Because for the age group that they seem to be marketing this towards, generally teens, this would be a lot of money if you wanted to meet everyone and go to the festival.

For anyone who wants to take a look at the events FAQ:
http://www.thisisamplify.com/blog/cool- ... d-mel-faqs

[Birdie]

A general admission ticket that only lets you into the venue, so no perks is $65 for early release, $75 for second release. Then a meet and greet for an unknown amount of time is an extra $189 on top of the GA tickets. That's only for one person, so if you wanted to meet both Dan and Phil and Lindsey Stirling for example, you would have to pay $65 for your general admission, $189 for Lindsey and then another $189 for Dan and Phil. But say you wanted to meet all the talent, both headlining and not headlining it's $450, still not including the admission price. (and there's only 50 of these available)

For an event like this is this normal? Because for the age group that they seem to be marketing this towards, generally teens, this would be a lot of money if you wanted to meet everyone and go to the festival.

I don't think that's normal? I think Glastonbury Festival which had really big acts like Muse headlining was about £200 (ca. $320 for comparison) for five days of camping and music. You don't get to meet any of the acts there of course but anyway. That's a lot of money for a one day festival and the only big star they have in their line-up is Lindsey Sterling. I think the admission prices are okay because I guess they include watching the acts perform but it is only one day and having to pay so much money to meet the acts seems kind of ridiculous to me. Celebrities charging so much money for a hug and a photo always make me uncomfortable to be honest but I know this is Amplify's doing. I still wonder why Deppy agreed to perform there. The more I find out about this festival, the weirder I think it is.

[basictrashfan]

A general admission ticket that only lets you into the venue, so no perks is $65 for early release, $75 for second release. Then a meet and greet for an unknown amount of time is an extra $189 on top of the GA tickets. That's only for one person, so if you wanted to meet both Dan and Phil and Lindsey Stirling for example, you would have to pay $65 for your general admission, $189 for Lindsey and then another $189 for Dan and Phil. But say you wanted to meet all the talent, both headlining and not headlining it's $450, still not including the admission price. (and there's only 50 of these available)

For an event like this is this normal? Because for the age group that they seem to be marketing this towards, generally teens, this would be a lot of money if you wanted to meet everyone and go to the festival.

I don't think that's normal? I think Glastonbury Festival which had really big acts like Muse headlining was about £200 (ca. $320 for comparison) for five days of camping and music. You don't get to meet any of the acts there of course but anyway. That's a lot of money for a one day festival and the only big star they have in their line-up is Lindsey Sterling. I think the admission prices are okay because I guess they include watching the acts perform but it is only one day and having to pay so much money to meet the acts seems kind of ridiculous to me. Celebrities charging so much money for a hug and a photo always make me uncomfortable to be honest but I know this is Amplify's doing. I still wonder why Deppy agreed to perform there. The more I find out about this festival, the weirder I think it is.

That's exactly what I was thinking, there's really not value for money in these tickets. And I also just noticed that there is a +fees attached to all of the prices, which I assume is a handling fee , booking fee or something of the sort which is quite common, but does increase the price. I feel like the organisers didn't really take into consideration the people who would be buying these tickets and their means of paying for them.

I might still consider going depending on who else is going to go to this event.

And from their twitter:

Which makes me further wonder what they are paying them..

[helloflyingjellyfish]

A general admission ticket that only lets you into the venue, so no perks is $65 for early release, $75 for second release. Then a meet and greet for an unknown amount of time is an extra $189 on top of the GA tickets. That's only for one person, so if you wanted to meet both Dan and Phil and Lindsey Stirling for example, you would have to pay $65 for your general admission, $189 for Lindsey and then another $189 for Dan and Phil. But say you wanted to meet all the talent, both headlining and not headlining it's $450, still not including the admission price. (and there's only 50 of these available)

For an event like this is this normal? Because for the age group that they seem to be marketing this towards, generally teens, this would be a lot of money if you wanted to meet everyone and go to the festival.

I don't think that's normal? I think Glastonbury Festival which had really big acts like Muse headlining was about £200 (ca. $320 for comparison) for five days of camping and music. You don't get to meet any of the acts there of course but anyway. That's a lot of money for a one day festival and the only big star they have in their line-up is Lindsey Sterling. I think the admission prices are okay because I guess they include watching the acts perform but it is only one day and having to pay so much money to meet the acts seems kind of ridiculous to me. Celebrities charging so much money for a hug and a photo always make me uncomfortable to be honest but I know this is Amplify's doing. I still wonder why Deppy agreed to perform there. The more I find out about this festival, the weirder I think it is.

Yeah it's really strange. It's not part of the normal Amplify Live thing and Deppy also haven't mentioned anything about it and also why the fuck is Nash Grier also in the lineup...

Also with meet and greet prices are really high and it just seems kinda fucked up, like the GA is actually not that bad but it kinda just seems a bit ridiculous