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liola wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:45 pm

Lucyrg95 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:01 pm it's october tomorrow, guess what danny boi, time is up spill that week in march and disappoint us all plEASE

at this point I really wouldn't be surprised if it was about EA/Sims merch. The timeline fits perfectly..

Oh that would be disappointing.

I'll admit I was more excited for the video than usual because they uploaded it on my birthday, but yeah, I really enjoyed it!

obscureDnPreference wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:57 pm

liola wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:45 pm

Lucyrg95 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:01 pm it's october tomorrow, guess what danny boi, time is up spill that week in march and disappoint us all plEASE

at this point I really wouldn't be surprised if it was about EA/Sims merch. The timeline fits perfectly..

Oh that would be disappointing.

I'm starting to suspect that's what it was.
It all adds up, it's been five months, it's a big project, they've been thinking about it for a long time...

alch wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:12 pm

obscureDnPreference wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:57 pm

liola wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:45 pm

Lucyrg95 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:01 pm it's october tomorrow, guess what danny boi, time is up spill that week in march and disappoint us all plEASE

at this point I really wouldn't be surprised if it was about EA/Sims merch. The timeline fits perfectly..

Oh that would be disappointing.

I'm starting to suspect that's what it was.
It all adds up, it's been five months, it's a big project, they've been thinking about it for a long time...

I actually don't think merch qualifies as a big project to them. There's nothing groundbreaking about it, they put out four new items into a store with dozens of existing items. I can't imagine there's that much to the process that's stressful to them, their only involvement is input into the design and material selection and then promotion once the products are done - and even if this tanked, nothing is make or break on whether or not these sell.
Wonder if that means he's off to Isle of Man? Guesses on if he goes alone, or Dan tags with?

A couple of small Dan and Phil clips in Joe Sugg's vlog -

10:07 and 13:00

Bouncer!Phil is terrifying. He does some good acting.

susan2 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:39 pm A couple of small Dan and Phil clips in Joe Sugg's vlog -

10:07 and 13:00

I love that look Dan is giving the camera around thirteen minutes in. Also seeing that they were still drinking when they got back to the hotel definitely convinces me that Dan's glitter close up selfie was a tipsy one.

flarequake wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:21 pm Bouncer!Phil is terrifying. He does some good acting.

I'm currently brewing a theory that says tipsy!Phil gets gradually more and more Lancs the more he has... (but yeah, that's just hometown accent tbh.)

@alittledizzy deeeeeeeefinitely pissed. Bless 'im.

alittledizzy wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:19 pm

alch wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:12 pm

obscureDnPreference wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:57 pm

liola wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:45 pm

Lucyrg95 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:01 pm it's october tomorrow, guess what danny boi, time is up spill that week in march and disappoint us all plEASE

at this point I really wouldn't be surprised if it was about EA/Sims merch. The timeline fits perfectly..

Oh that would be disappointing.

I'm starting to suspect that's what it was.
It all adds up, it's been five months, it's a big project, they've been thinking about it for a long time...

I actually don't think merch qualifies as a big project to them. There's nothing groundbreaking about it, they put out four new items into a store with dozens of existing items. I can't imagine there's that much to the process that's stressful to them, their only involvement is input into the design and material selection and then promotion once the products are done - and even if this tanked, nothing is make or break on whether or not these sell.

Wonder if that means he's off to Isle of Man? Guesses on if he goes alone, or Dan tags with?

I don't think it's a big project but if it involved getting permission from EA to get the rights to use the designs and they had some delay because of that then I can imagine it would be stressing. EA is no small company. But I'm sure Dan is gonna Haru it again lol

Has Phil been spotted leaving yet? I'd love some Lester family time pics including Danny boy

susan2 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:39 pm A couple of small Dan and Phil clips in Joe Sugg's vlog -

10:07 and 13:00

Is Dan reacting to Phil's bouncer impression in that clip or is he talking to Caspar?
It's funny how even in a relaxed environment they would still be bouncing off each other.

malday wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:52 pm

susan2 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:39 pm A couple of small Dan and Phil clips in Joe Sugg's vlog -

10:07 and 13:00

Is Dan reacting to Phil's bouncer impression in that clip or is he talking to Caspar?
It's funny how even in a relaxed environment they would still be bouncing off each other.

I think his "you've heard that..." comment was directed to Caspar/Joe. As a "nyahahaha! You got knocked back!" type joke.

Regarding 'that week in March' actually referring to legal issues with EA:
I thought so too for a minute, but now I'm not convinced. It wouldn't make sense, as if we assume they always planned to release the Dil merch around the 3 year anniversary of beginning the Sims series (which I do assume) then Dan delaying telling us about 'that week in March' by two months makes no sense. That suggests they initially planned to release the Dil merch in August, which I guess is possible but it makes more sense to have it coincide with the anniversary, which is late September, and I'd be surprised if they hadn't always planned for it to be that way. If it does turn out that 'that week in March' really was just something to do with the Dil merch it'll be a massive letdown lmao, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

alittledizzy wrote: Wonder if that means he's off to Isle of Man? Guesses on if he goes alone, or Dan tags with?

Possibly, although he does say he was just invited to his grandpa's birthday, so it may not be for a few weeks yet.

captainspacecoat wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 am Regarding 'that week in March' actually referring to legal issues with EA:
I thought so too for a minute, but now I'm not convinced. It wouldn't make sense, as if we assume they always planned to release the Dil merch around the 3 year anniversary of beginning the Sims series (which I do assume) then Dan delaying telling us about 'that week in March' by two months makes no sense. That suggests they initially planned to release the Dil merch in August, which I guess is possible but it makes more sense to have it coincide with the anniversary, which is late September, and I'd be surprised if they hadn't always planned for it to be that way. If it does turn out that 'that week in March' really was just something to do with the Dil merch it'll be a massive letdown lmao, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Whether or not "that week in March" has to do with Sims merch/EA legal issues, I think them releasing the merch for the Dil bday video was a relatively last minute decision (when it was pointed out to them a while back that Dil's bday was coming up) that worked out conveniently for them. I mainly get that from this tweet: I think they delayed making the Sims video until the merch was ready so they could time things nicely. Otherwise they could've just filmed the Sims vid with the merch spon in advance and release it on Dil's actual bday instead of releasing it a whole week later. Basically, I don't think they had planned from months back to have the Sims merch released on Dil's bday--which they didn't even do, it was a week after lol.

I remember Phil saying it took so long to create their Dan and Phil plushies...so I can imagine how long the Dil plushie must've taken...especially when you consider/add on the EA legal issues.

I honestly don't think 'that week in March' was related to the gaming merch, and that's not just my inner demon talking.
For one, Dan made it sound like some big ordeal, and even if getting permission from EA was a big deal, I don't think it would amount to a stressful week - maybe a few meetings, emails, things like that. I'd imagine it would take a bit longer to get it sorted too, not just a week.
Also, releasing merch is literally nothing new to them and I think that even if they were not allowed to sell the Dil merch, they would be fine. I mean, they'd just make something else then. It's not the end of the world.

Of course, Dan may have been (and probably was) exaggerating for whatever reason, but I honestly don't think that week in March is related to merch.

blueapple_x wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:46 am Whether or not "that week in March" has to do with Sims merch/EA legal issues, I think them releasing the merch for the Dil bday video was a relatively last minute decision (when it was pointed out to them a while back that Dil's bday was coming up) that worked out conveniently for them. I mainly get that from this tweet:

I think they delayed making the Sims video until the merch was ready so they could time things nicely. Otherwise they could've just filmed the Sims vid with the merch spon in advance and release it on Dil's actual bday instead of releasing it a whole week later. Basically, I don't think they had planned from months back to have the Sims merch released on Dil's bday--which they didn't even do, it was a week after lol.

I remember Phil saying it took so long to create their Dan and Phil plushies...so I can imagine how long the Dil plushie must've taken...especially when you consider/add on the EA legal issues.

I guess so, but they were pretty busy on the actual exact anniversary - they were headed to Spain, so it could just be that they were too disorganised to have it pre-filmed and ready to upload by then, alongside the newsletter. Plus, they were due a livestream that weekend if they wanted to stick to their fortnightly gaming livestream schedule, so it could be that they wanted to wait a bit after that before uploading the Sims. They'd also been on holiday the week before, which would have contributed to them running a bit behind schedule. I don't know, not saying the week in March definitely wasn't to do with the Dil merch, just that I'd be very surprised.

Also did Dan refer to being 'physically exhausted' during that week? Or was that to do with whatever happened in February? Because if it was to do with the March thing then I can't see how the Dil merch would cause physical exhaustion.

captainspacecoat wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:13 am

blueapple_x wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:46 am Whether or not "that week in March" has to do with Sims merch/EA legal issues, I think them releasing the merch for the Dil bday video was a relatively last minute decision (when it was pointed out to them a while back that Dil's bday was coming up) that worked out conveniently for them. I mainly get that from this tweet:

I think they delayed making the Sims video until the merch was ready so they could time things nicely. Otherwise they could've just filmed the Sims vid with the merch spon in advance and release it on Dil's actual bday instead of releasing it a whole week later. Basically, I don't think they had planned from months back to have the Sims merch released on Dil's bday--which they didn't even do, it was a week after lol.

I remember Phil saying it took so long to create their Dan and Phil plushies...so I can imagine how long the Dil plushie must've taken...especially when you consider/add on the EA legal issues.

I guess so, but they were pretty busy on the actual exact anniversary - they were headed to Spain, so it could just be that they were too disorganised to have it pre-filmed and ready to upload by then, alongside the newsletter. Plus, they were due a livestream that weekend if they wanted to stick to their fortnightly gaming livestream schedule, so it could be that they wanted to wait a bit after that before uploading the Sims. They'd also been on holiday the week before, which would have contributed to them running a bit behind schedule. I don't know, not saying the week in March definitely wasn't to do with the Dil merch, just that I'd be very surprised.

Also did Dan refer to being 'physically exhausted' during that week? Or was that to do with whatever happened in February? Because if it was to do with the March thing then I can't see how the Dil merch would cause physical exhaustion.

Just to clarify, I wasn't trying to relate 'the week in March' to Sims merch. That's why I said 'whether or not that week in March has to do with Sims merch...' before I began rambling. Sorry if it seemed that way.

My main point was that I don't think that they had always planned from months ago to release the Sims merch on Dil's bday(I'm assuming it definitely took more than 1 month to plan/design, create test versions, get EA's permission/figure out a deal with them lol). I think the timing of the completion of the merch worked out nicely for them to kill two birds with one stone and put the merch spon in Dil's bday video. True, they went on holiday and to Spain...and that could be why they weren't able to prefilm the Sims vid+merch spon to have it released on Dil's actual bday (as opposed to my earlier suggestion that perhaps they were waiting for the merch to be done), but again, all I'm saying is that I don't think they had planned months in advance to reveal the merch on Dil's bday---I think it was something they decided fairly recently because things were convenient. As for your point about the gaming livestream, well....that's one that would've been much easier to postpone for a Sims vid/merch spon if they had actually planned to release the merch on Dil's bday from months back.

I would be kinda letdown too if that "week in march" was about the merch.

"i've had a challenging week... or these the past 10 days, it's kinda funny...."

Mentioning the specific "10 days" tells me it was something a little bit more serious than working with EA/merch copyright stuff. Not to desensitize the stressful process I'm sure, but that to me is just a stressing thing, not worth mentioning the number of days that made it so challenging.

I know the speculation of them finding/buying a home is a thing but I personally don't really have any other theories on what it could be, I just don't want it to be about merch lol.

smol beans wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:35 am I would be kinda letdown too if that "week in march" was about the merch.

I don't quite believe that it was about the merch, but I've decided to tell myself it was just so I won't be let down

I have delayed #feelings about this new merch and they are mostly the same negative poopoo I spew every time. I get that Dil's their "child" and that Dil videos make them the most money and that Dil was the shining star of tatinof, but like.... Can they stop with this now? To me, this merch does nothing but spon The Sims at best.

This was where I was going to go into a short rant about how Tabitha isn't even their own creation (so selling her shirt seems ridiculous blahblahblah), but then I did a bit of research just to make sure and..... she is??? She's not a Sims pre-made. She doesn't exist anywhere else. This has fucked me up. They made her especially for Dil and then conveniently met her while she was out and about in town? Y'all. My mind is blown.

Back to the topic at hand. (Although I do want to chat about this Tabitha thing I'm somehow the last person on Earth to realize. Has anyone else ever actually seen a Tabitha in their Sims 4 games?!) When will Dan and Phil make cool minimalist merch that highlights how beautifully lowercase "d" and "p" go together?

Tabitha isn't even their own creation (so selling her shirt seems ridiculous blahblahblah), but then I did a bit of research just to make sure and..... she is??? She's not a Sims pre-made. She doesn't exist anywhere else.

They made her especially for Dil and then conveniently met her while she was out and about in town?

are you like completely sure that they created her? where did you find out about it? bc if they did then why would they create her with a husband (that black sim she was married to-Leroy Casper)?
also if they created her wouldn't they have given her better traits and a predetermined career? because dan always reacts negatively to her Childishness/ her being a Slob and if you remember, they had that whole discussion about dil getting the "fancy career" and tabitha paying for it

idk doesn't add up

thegamingmerch: i'm sorry but that shit is ugly why does the dil plushie have eyebrows? why is it so accessorized? who asked? i get that it's their branding and dil is their career defining moment or whatever but did they stop for a min and think "hmmm maybe this isn't that cute?" or have they just peaked to the point where they just don't care cus they know people will buy it and they will make bank regardless? i really just want them to learn form other youtubers like nathan zed and put out some actual cute merch which i will be proud of owning/wearing

I think Tabitha is a sim that the game randomly generates. This wiki says a bit more http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Townie, but basically, she's a sim that the game randomly put together that has a career and character traits but isn't in every game.

ijustwantdeath wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:21 am

Tabitha isn't even their own creation (so selling her shirt seems ridiculous blahblahblah), but then I did a bit of research just to make sure and..... she is??? She's not a Sims pre-made. She doesn't exist anywhere else.

They made her especially for Dil and then conveniently met her while she was out and about in town?

are you like completely sure that they created her? where did you find out about it? bc if they did then why would they create her with a husband (that black sim she was married to-Leroy Casper)?
also if they created her wouldn't they have given her better traits and a predetermined career? because dan always reacts negatively to her Childishness/ her being a Slob and if you remember, they had that whole discussion about dil getting the "fancy career" and tabitha paying for it

idk doesn't add up

I mean... I'm not sure at all. I just started looking her up and found a few conspiracy posts online about how they potentially made her because she doesn't exist elsewhere. Also the post I've quoted below may explain her.

bjjqueen wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:26 am I think Tabitha is a sim that the game randomly generates. This wiki says a bit more http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Townie, but basically, she's a sim that the game randomly put together that has a career and character traits but isn't in every game.

This actually makes more sense, thank you. And I hope this is the case. Because honestly, a Sim that's pale, black hair, green shirt, and blue shorts? Like... it couldn't physically get more Phil-esque.

rizzo wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:52 am This was where I was going to go into a short rant about how Tabitha isn't even their own creation (so selling her shirt seems ridiculous blahblahblah), but then I did a bit of research just to make sure and..... she is??? She's not a Sims pre-made. She doesn't exist anywhere else. This has fucked me up. They made her especially for Dil and then conveniently met her while she was out and about in town? Y'all. My mind is blown.

Oh I've definitely heard the Tabitha theory somewhere before. I'm not sure I believe that they created her. I read somewhere that she's a pre-generated Sim for their town (which explains her ex husband and annoying traits) but I do remember seeing somewhere that they changed her aspirations from Master Mixologist to Serial Romantic. Which is odd and strikes me as unnecessary.

Their entire approach to playing the Sims is strange. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that they've dragged the series out for 3 years. I don't think I've ever seen another YouTuber slowly bleed out a gaming series this way. I really do wish they'd do that long livestream and let Dil die in some freak cloning accident or something. The gameplay has gotten really, really stale by this point, for me anyways.

The Sims creates a whole different set of townies each time you start a game with a fresh neighbourhood so no two games will have townies that look the same or have the same names. The devs make characters as neighbours so you have some in houses to play or for your sims to meet, so everyone has people like the Pancakes, Landgraabs, Goths and Johnny Zest.

I think the Dil plushie's kinda cute, though not as cute as the Deppy ones. I thought all the accessories were kinda cool, but in another way it looks overdone. I find it funny that their heads are different shapes, the Dil one's all wide and round while the Dan and Phil ones are kinda long. Also the Phil one's head is smaller than the Dan one. Unless they get squashed in packing, idk. I know Dan's taller, but if that's why then it's pretty exaggerated. The tshirts are cute, though I'm not totally sold on the slippers. They're nice enough, just not the cutest. If pale green suited me I might buy the Tabitha one. I suit black just fine, but the Dil design doesn't do it for me.

On the subject of plushies, a fan artist made her Phil plushie the hoodie and moose hat from the Shelter videos and took it into the woods for a photoshoot, it's the cutest thing

Their entire approach to playing the Sims is strange. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that they've dragged the series out for 3 years. I don't think I've ever seen another YouTuber slowly bleed out a gaming series this way.

this is only further made worse by dan's comment on the last sim's vid where he says "maybe in 3 years dab can live in the fancy penthouse" or something along those lines. this is a probably a reach, but it gives some insight about how much longer they think they will occupy the platform and how they don't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon. i feel like we're all gradually moving towards an AU where "big youtubers" like felix and jake paul fall from power with a declining sub count while dan and phil sit smug in their gaming chairs and put out yet another Google Feud video with some eye contact only for it to get over a million views. the sims series is going to be dragged out for atleast another few years so i guess our only option is to age with Dil.