Dan & Phil Part 46: Some kind of a gay backstory

[pearshaped34]

I love that Dan totally snitched on Phil when he was already safely through and waiting for his bag. Phil would have been so mad at him if the lady had actually went through with getting Phil back and stopping him being able to extend his work visa too.

I did enjoy the vid, but don't see the tan you guys are seeing. No explanation of why Phil didn't go with him. I guess maybe he just wanted some recharge time? But still, first time in the Bahamas without Phil?

Wait, why would we need an explanation for why Phil didn't go? It was just a there-and-back trip, Phil didn't have any visa issue to correct, and flying sucks on a good day. I think that's more than enough explanation lol.

Yeah not only would it be a waste of Phil's afternoon but also a waste of his money. I know they're not exactly hard up for cash but still who wants to waste (what I'm presuming will be) a few hundred dollars on flights they don't need to take when they wouldn't even get to spend any real time in the destination country?

[howadorableright]

Maybe Dan's tsa shirt was Martyn's? Seems more likely than Phil's dad but either way it's cute

[QuiteFriendly]

Can't help but chuckle at Dan's weird write-offs for why he was staying back. "To do some work in the sunshine" or whatever. Ok, Dan. You can vacation with your boyfriend's family. You don't have to make work-related excuses.

The beginning is kinda weird too, or maybe genius. He never addresses where he's filming but leaves you with the impression that he did with the whole "As my new apartment video background look like this ..."

I like your theory on postponing filming in the new place as well, rizzo

[lishachi]

Wow, Dan's tweet replies have me more fascinated than the video itself.

a) Peer pressure - acknowledging that Phil wanted him to stay. Combined with the fact that in the video he actually said he was staying with Phil and Phil's family... amazing. What is this world we live in.

b) we don't really have to know everything and why - Bless him for this honesty. I wonder if this is something we'll hear reiterated in the near future? Less obfuscation about things in their life, more blatantly acknowledging that they're not obligated to share and on our time frame even if they do.

c) "as long as it's all bants no angst" - he doesn't like it when fandom assumes the worst in a situation? As much as I like to analyze things from every angle, it never really occurred to me that Dan might have specific opinions on the reactions to things. Most specifically I'm thinking of the moving thing now, did it bother him that so many people assumed he and Phil would move separately? Or that every time they have an announcement people are concerned and upset?

I was thinking about this the other day, what if people suddenly just stopped shipping them/thinking they're together and convinced each other that they would live seperately and that they were actually 'bros'? How do you think they would take that? (asking anybodys opinion!) If the circumstances were flipped, and the fascination and mystery of 'are they or aren't they' wasn't actually present, how would Dan and Phil react to that? Would they encourage it, them being seperate and not together in anyway? Or would they panic as they've built this brand up and a big majority of their audience actively ships and believes they're together? Just something I was thinking about, if the tables were turned kind of thing.

Also, Dan in the video said he was planning on going to the convention thing and then going with Phil, so it must of been planned, right? Like before they got there? Or am I missing something? (I have a cold so I probably have correct me if I'm wrong.)

[tymyky]

I agree with the fact, that we don't have to know everything, but he must have been quite sure that it will cause a shitstorm. If he didn't want anybody to speculate, he just shouldn't have tweeted it. He wanted to play games with all of us and I'm pretty sure he was really entertained by the conspiracy theories.

I just loved the video. His storytelling always gets me and it's my favourite content from him. And it really surprised me when he acknowledged that he just tagged along to Phil's family holiday. I am here since 2010 and I have never seen them more open about their lives. Maybe it's a little bit of a paradox, Dan tells us we shouldn't try to know everything, but at the same time we actually know more about their lives than ever. And I'm not complaining.

[awkwardly]

omg taxi & the broken engine on top of the visa. no wonder he stayed so long before wanting to see an airport again ( ) my favourite part was probably the airport lady (I was a bit bothered by the 'tin' sound cause of the no carpet house). Pity they didn't film part of the sketch outside, I was kinda hoping for that (I really like change of scenery, I kind of wish that pokemon was still a thing just to see outside )

c) "as long as it's all bants no angst" - he doesn't like it when fandom assumes the worst in a situation? As much as I like to analyze things from every angle, it never really occurred to me that Dan might have specific opinions on the reactions to things. Most specifically I'm thinking of the moving thing now, did it bother him that so many people assumed he and Phil would move separately? Or that every time they have an announcement people are concerned and upset?

probably the concerned part, so ppl don't end up going over some doomsday scenario. but ppl will talk about the good and bad possibilities.

but if he is telling us with this to look at the bright side of the future when we bant, always and in everything, ok then

[autumnhearth]

I love that Dan totally snitched on Phil when he was already safely through and waiting for his bag. Phil would have been so mad at him if the lady had actually went through with getting Phil back and stopping him being able to extend his work visa too.

I did enjoy the vid, but don't see the tan you guys are seeing. No explanation of why Phil didn't go with him. I guess maybe he just wanted some recharge time? But still, first time in the Bahamas without Phil?

Wait, why would we need an explanation for why Phil didn't go? It was just a there-and-back trip, Phil didn't have any visa issue to correct, and flying sucks on a good day. I think that's more than enough explanation lol.

Yeah not only would it be a waste of Phil's afternoon but also a waste of his money. I know they're not exactly hard up for cash but still who wants to waste (what I'm presuming will be) a few hundred dollars on flights they don't need to take when they wouldn't even get to spend any real time in the destination country?

Okay, but here is my question: Did Phil just not have an issue because of his bants with the bald TSA officer, or was it because in addition to his entertainer's visa he also had a tourist visa, since he was already planning on staying for two weeks with his family? Because if we go just based on what Dan said in the video then technically Phil would need to leave the country and re-enter like Dan. Dan is kinda saying he just didn't get caught... which could perhaps become an issue when leaving? I'm guessing though that Phil had both and Dan just didn't find that info necessary to the video, but it might be something explained in a liveshow... That or his TSA agent went along with Phil's projected stay time and everything looks right on paper, so no problem. Okay, actually that makes the most sense and doesn't contradict the video. Should have gone with the bald guy Danny, though I don't like to think of Phil getting stuck with that lady and having to go through a similar ordeal.

[dontpanic]

First, I just gotta say Dan’s marketing skills are on point. Mentions an absurd yet plausible event with virtually no context, builds a level of mystery, reveals just enough details and evidence to legitimize said event, waits just long enough for fans to imagine multiple theories but not grow bored. Dan’s learning how to properly hype a video and give us a payoff afterwards.

Favorite bits:
--someone already said it, but I just have to agree that Dan’s new twitter icon looks way too similar to filthy frank.
--The way dan delivers the probing line. I laughed, confused my office mate.
--“I valiantly volunteered…Phil to go first” it’s not that funny of a line but until u imagine that conversation between the two actually happening
--Dan’s wearing his father-in-law’s shirt and his mother-in-law’s glasses, confirmed
--Dan with his striped shirt and backpack is #adorable
--Did dan learn his lesson now about judging TSA agents by their looks?
--imagine dan sitting in the taxi terrified while watching his taxi driver scream at the coordinator
--no new outro kinda disappointed

Tldr I love dan’s storytime vids and I can’t wait to hear Phil’s comments on this next liveshow.

(Also, this is so old but something about the ‘face app’ video mixed with his fear of death I remembered when rewatching his collab with hazel makes me super curious about Phil’s relationship with his own age, but ugh dan totally gave us some good content to discuss instead).

edit: totally seems most likely it's martyn's shirt since it (sorta, kinda) fits his style but at the same time it looks to me a bit large on dan, and since martyn is smaller than dan i was like . tbh it's popular to wear shirts like those a size or two large, right? idk I'm fashion-challenged

[phanofcats]

Loved the video! Looks like our theory was right once again!

Wow, Dan's tweet replies have me more fascinated than the video itself.

a) Peer pressure - acknowledging that Phil wanted him to stay. Combined with the fact that in the video he actually said he was staying with Phil and Phil's family... amazing. What is this world we live in.

b) we don't really have to know everything and why - Bless him for this honesty. I wonder if this is something we'll hear reiterated in the near future? Less obfuscation about things in their life, more blatantly acknowledging that they're not obligated to share and on our time frame even if they do.

c) "as long as it's all bants no angst" - he doesn't like it when fandom assumes the worst in a situation? As much as I like to analyze things from every angle, it never really occurred to me that Dan might have specific opinions on the reactions to things. Most specifically I'm thinking of the moving thing now, did it bother him that so many people assumed he and Phil would move separately? Or that every time they have an announcement people are concerned and upset?

a) I also agree with the theory of him originally just planning to stay to do the coupley bit of the holiday with Martyn and Cornelia, then Phil "peer pressured" him into staying for the family part. I have demon thoughts of Phil telling him he IS part of the family Its amazing that he said he was with Phil's family in the video and not just on twitter or a LS!

b) He was throwing serious shade in this tweet! He is not wrong though, we don't need to know everything!

c) I've never thought about this but it is interesting. I could see Dan getting upset over our "angsty" theories. because they will never happen (which is really cute to me)

The shirt: I thought that I was maybe Martyn's? I don't recall Dan or Phil ever wearing that shirt.

[Aeryth]

I really didn't expect a video from "a holiday home", though it actually suits the story. Before I saw it as a sign of him getting back (both home and to work)

I love Dan's videos because I always feel like he actually interacts with the people watching or maybe I'm just too involved Enjoyed all the sketches, the general tone and just the sight of Dan, can't wait to re-watch it tomorrow first thing in the morning.

How can you watch someone every day and still miss them? And boy, I missed Dan.

Yes, please!

[queerofcups]

ok, let's see if I can get this quote function right...

The examples they saw around them were actual instances of non-straight flirting, not the emo bi-for-attention people.

If anything, I think being in a social group of actually queer youtubers would be what made them feel safe expressing themselves on social media.

Though I will say, had Dan and Phil kept on playing it up in the 2011-2012 era when they were actually gaining an audience rapidly and the audience might have been responding to that, I'd be more sold on the theory. The fact that the point at which you'd expect them to be finding ways to snare people in, they began doing the exact opposite of what would have been a popular move seems significant to me, too.

Snipped for length. I don't disagree with you, I just don't think the two things are mutually exclusive! Were they more comfortable flirting on twitter and the like because they were surrounded by queer couples? Probably! Were they able to do so with minimal (or at least less) questioning about their relationship because it wasn't seen as exactly unusual (b/c of the emo boys thing)...well I actually don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised. Are there people who started watching because they genuinely felt a connection to Dan and Phil, together or seperately? Sure. Are there people who saw PINOF and wondered if this particular set of emo boys would kiss (and then probably got sucked in)? I'd put money on it.

I'm not arguing that they necessarily banked on people not questioning their relationship because its 2009 and emo boys kissing gets the views. I'm arguing (or trying to anyway, lol) that that's one of the context in which their public online relationship started and existed for a while and likely shaped some of the audience response to it (I'd also assume that at least some people bought that Voldy was fake for much that same reason).

lol this is going to get eaten up by new vid responses immediately, isn't it?

[malday]

Also, Dan in the video said he was planning on going to the convention thing and then going with Phil, so it must of been planned, right? Like before they got there? Or am I missing something? (I have a cold so I probably have correct me if I'm wrong.)

I think he definitely planned to stay beforehand (maybe not as long as he did, though) and it wasn't a spur of the moment decision that he made when he was at playlist.

I actually got the impression he would stay during that joint liveshow in their new home, when at one point, i don't know if anyone else recalls, he said something along the lines of trying to do one from Florida/trying his luck with the internet(?) (i think it's in the few minutes that are missing and nobody managed to record because i can't find it in the timestamps) in regards to doing a liveshow, and i remember thinking he meant the first liveshow after playlist. And then he mentioned Florida internet again, but this time talking about Phil's liveshow.

edit:
it appears some of the other youtubers at playlist (or maybe just cat) knew the story:

[jesuisunèléve]

First, I just gotta say Dan’s marketing skills are on point. Mentions an absurd yet plausible event with virtually no context, builds a level of mystery, reveals just enough details and evidence to legitimize said event, waits just long enough for fans to imagine multiple theories but not grow bored. Dan’s learning how to properly hype a video and give us a payoff afterwards.

Favorite bits:
--someone already said it, but I just have to agree that Dan’s new twitter icon looks way too similar to filthy frank.
--The way dan delivers the probing line. I laughed, confused my office mate.
--“I valiantly volunteered…Phil to go first” it’s not that funny of a line but until u imagine that conversation between the two actually happening
--Dan’s wearing his father-in-law’s shirt and his mother-in-law’s glasses, confirmed
--Dan with his striped shirt and backpack is #adorable
--Did dan learn his lesson now about judging TSA agents by their looks?
--imagine dan sitting in the taxi terrified while watching his taxi driver scream at the coordinator
--no new outro kinda disappointed

Tldr I love dan’s storytime vids and I can’t wait to hear Phil’s comments on this next liveshow.

(Also, this is so old but something about the ‘face app’ video mixed with his fear of death I remembered when rewatching his collab with hazel makes me super curious about Phil’s relationship with his own age, but ugh dan totally gave us some good content to discuss instead).

edit: totally seems most likely it's martyn's shirt since it (sorta, kinda) fits his style but at the same time it looks to me a bit large on dan, and since martyn is smaller than dan i was like . tbh it's popular to wear shirts like those a size or two large, right? idk I'm fashion-challenged

Loved how Dan threw Phil under the bus.

I am not shocked that Phil got through so fast, he's probably super charming while Dan is sweating and awkward.

9/11 made entering into the US a hassle. The majority of the 9/11 hijackers had expired student visas.

[howadorableright]

[offtopic]Has anyone heard about the stalker that went to deppy's apartment? Their @ on twitter was qualitykitten or something but I think they changed it. It makes me so upset that people think it's okay to do this shit. Dan and Phil are starting to relax a bit and this is the last thing they need. They hardly have any privacy and then people destroy the tiny amount that they /do/ have by being incredibly invasive and crossing the line.[/offtopic]

[xaephan]

[offtopic]Has anyone heard about the stalker that went to deppy's apartment? Their @ on twitter was qualitykitten or something but I think they changed it. It makes me so upset that people think it's okay to do this shit. Dan and Phil are starting to relax a bit and this is the last thing they need. They hardly have any privacy and then people destroy the tiny amount that they /do/ have by being incredibly invasive and crossing the line.[/offtopic]

[offtopic]Isn't qualitykitten the person Phil tweeted in a pinof? I want to say it was 7, but maybe it was 8. It was definitely in a blooper video as opposed to the main vid, though.

Is this the old apartment? The location of that one was unfortunately not a well-kept secret for a couple of years before they moved. Still 100% not okay to go stalk them of course, but I hope at least it's not the new one. [/offtopic]

[lefthandedism]

I enjoyed Dan's video and it was fun seeing him in an American setting (even if it was just a generic modern house--it was an American generic modern house ). Also, his American accent is much better than I've heard him use before (he's generally been pretty bad; Phil's has always been better). I guess those weeks in Florida--some of the time outside--have really brushed up his accent. On top, of course, of all those weeks here last year.

Okay, but here is my question: Did Phil just not have an issue because of his bants with the bald TSA officer, or was it because in addition to his entertainer's visa he also had a tourist visa, since he was already planning on staying for two weeks with his family?

Totally option #1. Border/customs agents, not just the TSA, can be incredibly arbitrary. I had a similar situation: another American and I had (identical) work visas to the UK, and near the end of the visas' timeframe, we took a trip to the continent. When we came back to the UK, my friend was allowed in for 3 weeks (or whatever the default tourist entry would be for), while I was let in for only 3 days (the end of my work visa).

Defending the video being real is defending D&P being the people I think they are, and by extension my own judge of character or whatever. Is it all Not That Deep? idk).

Kudos for distilling why people are so passionate about voldy being real (or not) down to just a few lines. I couldn't figure out how to do that myself, though I kept mentally circling around the same concept.

I agree, fancybum perfectly sums up why people tend to be passionate about voldy.

Also, D&P's (apparent) life makes one heck of a love story--and who doesn't love a love story?

i appreciate this. i've never really got why people would care so much about if it's real or not. explanation below spoiler, because it's all based on personal experience.

in high school, i was closeted and my relationship status was a public interest (i was known in my school as "x of x&y", like "dan of dan&phil"). few people knew that we were together, but a lot of people speculated and asked us, constantly. we absolutely would have done something like voldy if we'd known how to, as a way to come out.

i would have loved to do some big sentimental thing, complete with 'private' details that weren't too saucy, and 'accidentally' leaked it. it would have gotten people off our backs, and it would have let us avoid making an outright statement. but if we'd set up something, changed our minds, and then it ended up public, that would be us being outed, by ourselves, on accident.

i kind of think this is what happened. when i say it seems fake, i think i mean that it was posted for viewers, not just for dan. and then they changed their minds, and the subsequent freak out when it was unprivated makes sense. but i think the initial video planning and production might have been for fans to see it, at some point.

(what ended up happening with me was actually that someone followed us to gf's house after school and saw us kissing through a window. so yeah, not much better. the kids at my school clearly had too much time on their hands and were creepy af.)

i'm not saying that's for sure what happened. but i myself would have done it, and it would fit both common theories: that the information and sentiments are true, and that the video was manufactured for viewers. am i making some huge assumptions? yes, absolutely. but it fits fairly well, i think.

and yes, d&p are one of my favorite love stories.

I think this is an important idea. We all tend to like to see things in black and white, even though we know life is complicated. I was in a real dilemma a year ago (when I first fell in the ), because I was reading everything I could, and when you do that it feels like a cacophony of "it's real!"/"it's fake!". (Also, recall, just a year ago, Deppy's behavior was still pretty no-phano.) Anyway, I decided the only way I could reconcile it for myself was to believe both sides: the social media while they were getting to know each other was for show, and mostly coordinated; they also managed to fall in love in the process. You take it a step further by imagining that both-for-show-and-real process still at work in voldy, so kudos .

[confusedpanda]

[offtopic]Has anyone heard about the stalker that went to deppy's apartment? Their @ on twitter was qualitykitten or something but I think they changed it. It makes me so upset that people think it's okay to do this shit. Dan and Phil are starting to relax a bit and this is the last thing they need. They hardly have any privacy and then people destroy the tiny amount that they /do/ have by being incredibly invasive and crossing the line.[/offtopic]

According to the screenshots, the messages were from november 2016. Meaning this happened when they were still living at the old place, which is still horrifying. I think one of the worst parts is the fact the stalker had her dad come with her. HER DAD!!! What kind of parent would be ok with they're child stalking someone to their home?!
Honestly, aside from moving for storage, people constantly showing up outside/around they're place played a big factor into moving. I can't imagine living like that, seriously. Knowing a fan could show up at anytime around the exterior of your home? Thats just scary.

[howadorableright]

[offtopic]Has anyone heard about the stalker that went to deppy's apartment? Their @ on twitter was qualitykitten or something but I think they changed it. It makes me so upset that people think it's okay to do this shit. Dan and Phil are starting to relax a bit and this is the last thing they need. They hardly have any privacy and then people destroy the tiny amount that they /do/ have by being incredibly invasive and crossing the line.[/offtopic]

According to the screenshots, the messages were from november 2016. Meaning this happened when they were still living at the old place, which is still horrifying. I think one of the worst parts is the fact the stalker had her dad come with her. HER DAD!!! What kind of parent would be ok with they're child stalking someone to their home?!
Honestly, aside from moving for storage, people constantly showing up outside/around they're place played a big factor into moving. I can't imagine living like that, seriously. Knowing a fan could show up at anytime around the exterior of your home? Thats just scary.

Apparently she's twelve years old. I couldn't even go to the bathroom without asking when I was twelve, let alone STALK someone. Part of me wants dnp to stay in Florida in their vacation house where no one knows where they are so they can relax and be happy

[sugar]

first of all, i loved the video. already watched it 2.5 times and i'll probably watch it again after posting this. i somehow feel starved for content even though there was a joint video just a few days ago.

the video made me laugh multiple times but i just can't get over how freckly dan is looking! i love it. he should get out in the sun more often. also those curls. the curlier the better in my opinion. he looks great and i should hope so after a nice long vacation.

maybe i'm just being a demon but did anyone else think there was something in the tone that dan said 'friend' at like 4:54? i probably am just projecting but

also i love that the probing comment went so...uncommented on. i feel like that would've been a big deal if it weren't may 2017.

Okay, but here is my question: Did Phil just not have an issue because of his bants with the bald TSA officer, or was it because in addition to his entertainer's visa he also had a tourist visa, since he was already planning on staying for two weeks with his family? Because if we go just based on what Dan said in the video then technically Phil would need to leave the country and re-enter like Dan. Dan is kinda saying he just didn't get caught... which could perhaps become an issue when leaving? I'm guessing though that Phil had both and Dan just didn't find that info necessary to the video, but it might be something explained in a liveshow... That or his TSA agent went along with Phil's projected stay time and everything looks right on paper, so no problem. Okay, actually that makes the most sense and doesn't contradict the video. Should have gone with the bald guy Danny, though I don't like to think of Phil getting stuck with that lady and having to go through a similar ordeal.

so in the last week and a half i've travelled between the us, uk, italy, and spain so i've got a bit of experience (and in the past) of travelling between countries. and basically, i think that it really doesn't matter. phil got let through maybe out of luck and i think that if dan hadn't gone to the bahamas....nothing would have happened. i think the us has bigger fish to fry than dan staying in the country longer than his professional visa says it allows, i don't really think they'd have been like 'dan howell is still in the country...we need to get him out'. and i don't think he'd have any trouble leaving the country on his intended day of leaving. they don't check your visas when you're leaving the country or getting on a flight. they check that your passport matches you and the name on your boarding pass and that's about it. and getting into the uk wouldn't have been a problem either. the border patrol agent probably had to tell him to do this out of protocol but in all reality, if he'd have stayed and left when he intended to without re-entering the country, he'd have been fine.

now, this makes me kind of think that he did it on purpose. i think maybe, when told this, he realized it probably wasn't something that he had to do but something that would make a good video. so he did it.

i could be totally wrong but those are just my thoughts as someone who's travelled in and out of the us multiple times. i understand that getting into the us is more difficult than in other countries but i'm pretty sure that they wouldn't have hunted him down had he stayed past the three days without going to the bahamas and that when he leaves they won't really care or even try to find out how long he's been there for.

anyone else want to weigh in on this? obviously my experience can't be totally compared because i've never travelled in and out of the us as a citizen of a different country.

[vortexofphan]

now, this makes me kind of think that he did it on purpose. i think maybe, when told this, he realized it probably wasn't something that he had to do but something that would make a good video. so he did it.

i could be totally wrong but those are just my thoughts as someone who's travelled in and out of the us multiple times. i understand that getting into the us is more difficult than in other countries but i'm pretty sure that they wouldn't have hunted him down had he stayed past the three days without going to the bahamas and that when he leaves they won't really care or even try to find out how long he's been there for.

anyone else want to weigh in on this? obviously my experience can't be totally compared because i've never travelled in and out of the us as a citizen of a different country.

I think the problem would be more with him not being allowed in the county again. Hunt him down for overstaying a visa a few weeks, nah. But they might put him on a list somewhere and when he tries to come back in they'd be like, yeah you overstayed your visa last time, we don't trust you, sorry, go away. Which would be a problem for his job. Although he is British and semi-famous and in theory, we the US want the British allies and the money from the famous person so he might just have been fine.

I agree with other people, he might have originally only planned for those first three or so days after playlist. If Phil has planned this whole three weeks he might have started with the tourist visa, since that seems like it makes more sense for the trip.

But who knows. It was a fun video either way. I always enjoy his storytelling videos.

[sugar]

now, this makes me kind of think that he did it on purpose. i think maybe, when told this, he realized it probably wasn't something that he had to do but something that would make a good video. so he did it.

i could be totally wrong but those are just my thoughts as someone who's travelled in and out of the us multiple times. i understand that getting into the us is more difficult than in other countries but i'm pretty sure that they wouldn't have hunted him down had he stayed past the three days without going to the bahamas and that when he leaves they won't really care or even try to find out how long he's been there for.

anyone else want to weigh in on this? obviously my experience can't be totally compared because i've never travelled in and out of the us as a citizen of a different country.

I think the problem would be more with him not being allowed in the county again. Hunt him down for overstaying a visa a few weeks, nah. But they might put him on a list somewhere and when he tries to come back in they'd be like, yeah you overstayed your visa last time, we don't trust you, sorry, go away. Which would be a problem for his job. Although he is British and semi-famous and in theory, we the US want the British allies and the money from the famous person so he might just have been fine.

I agree with other people, he might have originally only planned for those first three or so days after playlist. If Phil has planned this whole three weeks he might have started with the tourist visa, since that seems like it makes more sense for the trip.

But who knows. It was a fun video either way. I always enjoy his storytelling videos.

good point! now the question is, phil clearly overstayed his visa unless dan is lying about how it all happened. or is there another option?

[sans]

[offtopic]I have nothing to add because i don't usually enjoy Dan's solo stuff, but I wanted to share this pic of Phil's signature in the HQ of Youtubers React because i thought it was cute and I havent seen Phil's handwritting before:



Slightly upset Dan's is not like right next to it tho[/offtopic]

[alittledizzy]

good point! now the question is, phil clearly overstayed his visa unless dan is lying about how it all happened. or is there another option?

I don't think Phil did - I think what Dan was saying is that Phil's TSA/customs guy had no problem writing in Phil's date as the end of his actual trip, not just the end of Playlist... whereas Dan's was more by the book and refused to stretch the dates that way.

Since the date on Phil's visa will be matching the date that he actually leaves, or at least within the reasonable range, he won't be in any trouble.

[karma_yeah]

I don't have anything profound to say -- just that I really love Dan's Daniel's video. I LOVE his story-telling/sketches. Made me laugh out loud several times. Well done, Danny boy! I give it 4 beaches out of 5

[opendoor]

My fave Dan vid in a while! I liked all the little skits inserted in, and his delivery was very funny and not over-the-top like it sometimes is. There were just so many good parts: "Am I really that pale", the dramatic music when he pissed off the airport-lady, the spotify-death playlist and the risky tweets, and ofc the probing part. And that's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's plenty of others I missed.

I know we don't want to encourage Dan and his quality-threshold, but this is the kind of vid I think of when I think of quality danisnotonfire Daniel Howell content. Sidenote I think it would have been cool if Dan had changed the display name, but still referred to the channel as danisnotonfire. As in, the channel is danisnotonfire, but I'm Daniel Howell. That way he could
establish the divide between the channel and his actual identity, and he could still say things like 'let's talk about the new danisnotonfire vid' 'the danisnotonfire background' etc.

first of all: kudos to Asky160 for originating the visa theory which turned out to be actually true!

i liked the video! i thought the editing was on point for it and it was what made me laugh the most. and i can't help it, i just like his storytelling a lot. also i'm honestly a bit impressed at dan's impersonation of the visa lady, i have a vivid picture in mind now. i can't help to compare it to "i nearly blinded myself" (which is one of my favourites), simply because they're both airport stories and the doris/visa lady bits are somewhat similar, i suppose. if i'm going there, i think "i nearly blinded myself" had a bit better pacing, but it also might just be personal taste.

all in all, i'm happy dan uploaded. i needed something to cheer me up today. but i'm also glad he took the opportunity to make this video without brooding over it too long (at least that's what it seems like).

on a sidenote, i had to laugh a bit when he explained the holiday situation at the counter like "my...........friend over there". the truly unexpected #relatable content of this story, awkward introduction!edition. but i don't think it was intentional.

I definitely agree that it's similar to "I Nearly Blinded Myself". Obviously there were less Phil mentions in this vid, I think "Blinded" might have been some kind of personal record. Flashback to that edit of the video but every time he said Phil's name it got faster. In the new vid, Dan was obviously trying to minimise the 'vacationing with his boyfriend's family' angle, but I didn't mind, because it was pretty transparent. He didn't go full Elaborate Denial Mode.

Can't help but chuckle at Dan's weird write-offs for why he was staying back. "To do some work in the sunshine" or whatever. Ok, Dan. You can vacation with your boyfriend's family. You don't have to make work-related excuses.

The beginning is kinda weird too, or maybe genius. He never addresses where he's filming but leaves you with the impression that he did with the whole "As my new apartment video background look like this ..."

Ahh, I did notice that what he said at the start didn't follow-on. "As my background at home isn't done HAVE A STORYTIME". I mean, it does make sense if you add in the information 'have a storytime from this backdrop in Florida' but he didn't say any of that. I was just chalking it up to him being Dan and saying long-winded sentences that don't make sense, but yeah, he was probably trying to avoid directly saying where he was. Also he was trying to show how bland his set-up was, but all I could see was the butt-chair.